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post #871 of 897 Old 01-05-2015, 09:58 AM
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Materials List and wot not

Lilmike - THANK you so much for the information. I have managed to find the baltic birch but its 4 hours round trip to get it, I live in a VERY rural area and would have to drive no matter what anyway. I really do need a good materials list so I will not have to make an hour drive for a small item that would delay the build

Here is what I have so far for materials, I'm building 2 of these by the way.

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Skilsaw
Clamps
Brad Nailer
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Jig Saw (I don't have any fancy stuff so I will have to cut the driver opening with this anything additional I could use to make sure my cur is a perfect circle?)
Drill and associated bits

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2 5x5x1/2" sheets of baltic birch
1 tube of PL Premium
1 1/4" brad nailers
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2- Anarchy Woofers
1- Bash 300
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2- Of Some kind of straight run of speaker wire to hook up driver to terminal cups.

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Quart of primer
Quart of latex flat black or if anyone has another suggestion to a kit please let me know
Rough nap roller for texturing.

Does anyone see anything that I may have missed?

I will review the T-6 build..thanks!

I was hoping to get everything cut before I leave town on the 12th that way when I come back later this month I can start assembly but we will see.
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Method of Determining Driver Polarity?

OK... I built two of these in 2010, and it appears I have the polarity reversed on one of them (response is nil when played adjacent to each other).

Is there an easy method to determine proper driver polarity after the fact?

Thanks for a great sounding lil sub, Lilmike......
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You can do the pop test with a 9v battery. Just briefly touch the speaker leads to the battery terminals. With + on the battery going to + on the sub the cone should move outward, away from the motor assembly.
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You can do the pop test with a 9v battery. Just briefly touch the speaker leads to the battery terminals. With + on the battery going to + on the sub the cone should move outward, away from the motor assembly.
That would work great if I could see the driver. My cabs don't have an access door.
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Can you reach in and feel the back of the cone with your hand? You may need a helper to do it, but you should be able to do the pop test and lightly feel which way the cone moves.
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Can you reach in and feel the back of the cone with your hand? You may need a helper to do it, but you should be able to do the pop test and lightly feel which way the cone moves.
Thanks, worked great....didn't realize I could feel the cone, I knew about the battery method. Ended up my subs were wired correctly, so it was a head scratcher for a few minutes. I have them powered with one of my old EP2500's..... "someone" had reversed the bottom pair of the speaker connector stud screw-ons (red vs. black). From top to bottom they should be B-R-R-B. All is well with the world once again.

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small class d use with this sub

Can I use this amp with this sub (Any comment on this kit?)

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TDA8920 1.0 Super bass Version digital amplifier board (peak value 180W) power Class D power amplifier board

Product Introduction:

TDA8920 1.0 Super bass version digital amplifier board

This amplifier board adopts TDA8920BTH digital power amplifier chip as the core, BTL bridged method,the output power can up to 140W(peak value 180W).
It's compactable,high-effeiciency,high power,etc.
Super Bass low pass filter part adopts 2 pieces Operational amplifiers,cut-off frequency can be adjusted between 22Hz~210Hz.The overall effect is quite ideal.
All components are carefully selected,such as SANYO,NCC,philips capacitors,output terminal red-ring large current digital power amplifier Special inductance,Sealing quality potentiometers,original TDA8920 Chip iC,SMD components etc.
Simple circuit,Reliable function.
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Working voltage: Dual ±20V-±25V

we usually use the dual AC 20V-25V power supply+8*2200uF SANYO capacitor Array Power Amp filter circuit board(You can find out it in our store.)
The maximum output: 140W(8Ω/ ±25V) Peak value:180W
Dimension: Width x Dept x Hight(107.5mm*81.5mm*35mm) (The dimension do not include the potentiometer handle & other Projecting part)
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iNUKE1000DSP advice?

The good news is that all 4 subs are in use and they sound great. The bad news is that Erich at DIYSoundgroup has run out of flat-packs.

Right now, the placement is shown in the attached drawing. The small space limits the placement options. The drivers are 8 ohm. They're wired in series in each pair and then the pairs in parallel, presenting an 8ohm load to the single Dayton 240 that has been modified to have a 20Hz HPF.

In the configuration shown in the attached drawing, they provide the best bass I've ever had. Using Pono (that's another topic) the bass for music is stunning. Playing the Danley Sound Labs test files (Donny's Harley, trains and a fireworks finale) is breathtaking. Watching a black lab try to chase the Harley is quite entertaining.

I recently purchased an "open box" iNUKE 1000DSP from Parts Express to replace the Dayton. Any suggestions regarding implementing the iNUKE with the four 8 ohm subs are very welcomed.
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test files

Dear DizRotus

Very interest on Danley Test file Can you share the file? 'coz I don't no how to get it

Regards
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Dear DizRotus

Very interest on Danley Test file Can you share the file? 'coz I don't no how to get it

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The files are too large to be attached to a post. If you go to the site below, you'll see the four clickable links at the lower left. Download the files from there.

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/tom-d...ic-recordings/
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Thank for the link

Thank you very much
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Regarding the photo and drawing attached to post #871 above, If I were to reverse the front subs so that the mouths face outward toward the corners, rather than inward toward the center, how far from the corners do they need to be to not be "obstructed" by the corner walls?

The smoothed out bass from 4 subs is fanatastic with the subs as in the attachments. Nonetheless, I want to experiement with facing the mouths into the corners. It will also allow the option of bringing the mains closer together.
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for guys who have tested these subs..... would these outclass a pair of Infinity 12's ported (about 3.5 cu ft each driver in the infinitys)... I'm UBER tempted on either building a pair of the Anarchy's or a pair of the infinity 12's for my bedroom setup (12x14x8 room).... both drivers are about the same price, but I wasn't sure which one would eclipse the other
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Reed Exodus Anarchy 25hz Tapped Horn

I would personal stick with the pair of infinity over the anarchy sub. The infinity will be a much easier build and have greater output.
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First box done

Got the first box done, learned a lot on this build the most important being test fit the darn thing before glueing it. I had glued the internal folds and pressed them overnight. The next morning I started cutting the panels for the second box once I got all the panels cut I went back to the first box. I messed up and glued the internal folds and the outside panels BEFORE test fitting the side. Laid the side on and put my clamps on it to get the beloved seq. out of PL. Well I had a board cut to long on one of the inside panels because I had a good crack all the way down one side I could not get it to close. Carl advised to PL the crap out of it and keep my fingers crossed...I did and it worked. This lil sucker sounds so clean and compliments my H2's perfectly. Going to start glueing the second one today and yes I will test fit the last side before putting it on!!!!!! THANKS TO LILMIKE FOR DESIGNING THIS LITTLE BEAUTY AND TO CARL OVER ON THE KLIPSCH FORUM FOR ALL THE HELP. I can;t post links just yet due to low post count
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for guys who have tested these subs..... would these outclass a pair of Infinity 12's ported (about 3.5 cu ft each driver in the infinitys)... I'm UBER tempted on either building a pair of the Anarchy's or a pair of the infinity 12's for my bedroom setup (12x14x8 room).... both drivers are about the same price, but I wasn't sure which one would eclipse the other
Depends how you define class.

The strength of horn subs is low distortion, first, then high sensitivity. The Infinity's strength is displaced volume from the larger cone and greater power handling. The Anarchy TH is ideal for music while the 1260's strength is HT, especially those low, sustained bass passages. Neither outclasses the other, per se; it's strength in the application that varies.

Put another way, I ran an Anarchy TH next to a 15" sealed sub. The 15 reached lower, even at the same loudness, but that's a driver that really does outclass the Anarchy (as well as the 1260's).

But tsloms is right; you should built the 1260's. Anarchy is not a beginner's project, even with the KD kit.

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Depends how you define class.

The strength of horn subs is low distortion, first, then high sensitivity. The Infinity's strength is displaced volume from the larger cone and greater power handling. The Anarchy TH is ideal for music while the 1260's strength is HT, especially those low, sustained bass passages. Neither outclasses the other, per se; it's strength in the application that varies.

Put another way, I ran an Anarchy TH next to a 15" sealed sub. The 15 reached lower, even at the same loudness, but that's a driver that really does outclass the Anarchy (as well as the 1260's).

But tsloms is right; you should built the 1260's. Anarchy is not a beginner's project, even with the KD kit.

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Horn subs are not low distortion. Distortion is the tradeoff for increased efficiency in the case of horn subs.
Now, wether the distortion they produce actually matters, is debateable.

A 12" ported Infinity would be better than an Anarchy tapped horn for movies or low bass, but the box is much larger. The Anarchy subs are great for the size, and efficient. But for raw low-bass performance they aren't going to hold up to bigger subs.
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Got the second box done. I could not wait to fire it up got it all wired in and NOTHING! Called Carl and we went through a few things to tbshoot, finally found the problem. I had wired the binding post to driver wrong. In my defense I did use a different style binding post than the first box but really that no excuse I should have tested it. Anyway on the first box I had the driver terminals points up and the binding post just a bit higher than the driver. I didn't like the way the wires laid on the board when I test fitted it. So on this box I rotated the driver so the terminals on the driver were pointed down and mounted the binding post below them. THANK GOD I did this as I was able to reach through the mouth opening and unscrew the binding post and rewire them correctly. This build would have been a lot easier if I would have gotten a flat pack but I don't think I would have learned as much and I'm pretty proud of the fact that I did all this with no experience just a skiilsaw and a straight edge. I still need to sand them down and duratex them but for now I'm going to grab a cold beverage and enjoy them.

All is well in my listening room and I got to say I'm very impressed with how these things perform. If you have a small listening room and want to add more bass with a minimal foot print these are an excellent choice. I will never buy a commercial sub again not to say they are not worth it but I had a blast building these.

Thanks again to Lilmike for the design and to Carl over on the Klipsch forums for all the help.

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I've just picked up a pair of these, already built. They just have a small opening in the back with wires sticking through currently.


How are most ppl wiring them? speakon? binding posts?


Also what amp to use? full range amp maybe with DSP, or are most using a sub amp?


thanks!

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I've just picked up a pair of these, already built. They just have a small opening in the back with wires sticking through currently.
How are most ppl wiring them? speakon? binding posts?
Also what amp to use? full range amp maybe with DSP, or are most using a sub amp?
thanks!
The connector you choose is completely personal preference. For myself, I won't ever use anything but Speakons again. They're fantastic.

As for the amp, I think most people go with a plate amp like this:
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ifier--300-802
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The connector you choose is completely personal preference. For myself, I won't ever use anything but Speakons again. They're fantastic.

As for the amp, I think most people go with a plate amp like this:
http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ifier--300-802
100% agreed on the speakons. Any kind of connection, even wire nuts, will work. You can use anything you want to. But once you've tried speakons, they'll be what you want.

The amp above is good for one horn. For two I'm using this: http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ifier--300-803
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The amp above is good for one horn. For two I'm using this: http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...ifier--300-803
So here's a third choice, that's good for either 1 or 2 horns... (actually, so's the 250W plate)
http://www.parts-express.com/bash-30...-rms--300-7500

Also, watch for sales; I think I paid $100 for the BASH 300. It's rated 150W@8 ohm (1 horn) or 300W@4 ohm (2 horn) with a nice infrasonic filter below 20Hz.

The one great downside of this horn, over a box, is the absence of a place for a plate amp. I made a bustle for mine.

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I have an old Mirage BPS150 (dual opposed 8" drivers) that I pulled apart and am using the amp from that for now. The sound out of these little horns so far is amazing!!!


Now I need 2 more of these for a proper set. I see the drivers are available again at DIY sound group. Anyone know whether they'll be doing the flat packs again?

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So if I was going to build another pair from scratch, this would be the driver to get?
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/anarchy...rchy-8ohm.html

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