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post #961 of 971 Old 12-06-2015, 08:01 AM
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On the patent issue, unless you are a profitable target, you will only receive a cease and desist letter. Nobody is going to spend six figures in legal fees to sue a small target. They will just tell them to stop. You can probably sell flat packs of horns with no issues, especially since it's not a complete product. If an issue arises, it will most likely be a letter informing you to stop violating the patented design, you'll stop, and that will be the end of it.
I have to get 100 of them cut to keep the price low. On the second run they did allow for 75 simply because that's all the wood they had. My worry is if I get 100 done and I'm told to stop selling them after just 10 are sold, and I have 90 left over.

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Probably could pay a patent attorney a few hundred dollars and have all the answers. Might be a good idea, especially if in the future some company decides to patent the waveguide, etc...

Also, I'm not sure how the Creative Commons law works with this sort of thing too.
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I have to get 100 of them cut to keep the price low. On the second run they did allow for 75 simply because that's all the wood they had. My worry is if I get 100 done and I'm told to stop selling them after just 10 are sold, and I have 90 left over.
If you sold them for, say $100/pack, how many would you have to have pre-orders for to make it worth assuming the risk of being left with some stock if you had to stop selling them? Or maybe there is some other balance that could work.
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I'm not sure what the smallest number of them could be cut without the price getting up around $100. It's been 2 or 3 years since those were cut, so I'd have to ask.

It would be much better to just get permission from Tom Danley, but he's a pretty busy guy and I doubt I would get an email reply. I sent him an email a couple years ago but didn't hear back.

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I'd really like to see these brought back. Have a secondary room i'd like to get at least 4 of them. Also great as a PC set up subwoofer and car audio these things rock.

I would pre-order 4 of them if they are going to become available.
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I sent Danley Sound Labs another email last night to see if it was okay.

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I built two, one a flat pack, the other from scratch. Building from scratch is not the barrier folks make it out to be. Better for Erich to get the business, but not a good reason to change your plans.

For me, the key was understanding that the internal panels form two assemblies based on the two horizontal walls. Get them right, and all you do is locate the corners of each assembly, one of which is shared (they connect). A brad can help keep things in place. Final assembly was done sitting on an undersize box, so I could clamp the edges while using mass (cinder blocks) to clamp the internal panels.

The other nice thing is that these internal panels are the same width, a width that fit on my table saw, so I could cut all exactly the same. I can tell which is which, by eye but not by ear.

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I have to get 100 of them cut to keep the price low. On the second run they did allow for 75 simply because that's all the wood they had. My worry is if I get 100 done and I'm told to stop selling them after just 10 are sold, and I have 90 left over.
Just get 100 preorders, problem solved. I know I'd be in for 4, and someone else mentioned they want 4, and I'm sure there are countless others who would want a few. I bet you could pre-sell 100 of them pretty easily. And as someone else mentioned, all you're doing is selling cut up pieces of wood. What people decide to do with that wood when they get it is up to them. Although, the dadoed joints for all of the pieces may poke a hole in that defense. LOL.
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Out of curiosity, and maybe placement flexibility, would it change this speaker acoustically if the mouth were moved to the short side by blocking the mouth and cutting an equally sized one on the adjacent side? I'm guessing it would, since it would effectively shorten the last section, but I thought I'd ask.
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Out of curiosity, and maybe placement flexibility, would it change this speaker acoustically if the mouth were moved to the short side by blocking the mouth and cutting an equally sized one on the adjacent side? I'm guessing it would, since it would effectively shorten the last section, but I thought I'd ask.
I did mouths through the side with my T-6s, which was based on this design, but is designed to be a one-sheet build - all the horn I could get out of a single sheet of plywood.



There were some changes in the response vs. what the model predicted, but they still worked well enough for me to use them for several years which says something.

Make sure you cut the hole in the right place, without compromising the seal on any of the remaining horn, and make sure that the area of the mouth you cut through the side is appropriate.
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