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A friend manages a laser cutting shop and I work at a car dealership, so professionally painted 1/4 steel would be free. But I have another design in mind that involves the black epoxy. I'm not sure which way I would prefer. I'm going to try to photoshop a picture for comparisons.
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Ah, that's different.

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Looking good.

Just remember to let the cabinet off gas for some time, to get ride of the fumes that can damage the softparts of the driver.
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Looking good.

Just remember to let the cabinet off gas for some time, to get ride of the fumes that can damage the softparts of the driver.

Thanks for the heads up. how much time does it need?
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Thanks for the heads up. how much time does it need?

You are welcome.
As far as how long to let it off gas just leave it open in a climate controlled room till the smell is gone if not as strong.

Just do not put it outside as the climate changes in temp and humidity will give you other issues ----------------- ------------------
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Okay here are a couple drawings to compare my two finishing concepts. Turns out I'm no good with photoshop so these are done with a good ol sharpie marker.

The first method is the 3/4" steel plate painted black and flush mount within the baffle. The rest of the enclosure done in clear coat.



The alternative is to do the baffle, top and bottom in black epoxy, carrying it 3/4" onto the sides with the rest of the sides and back in clear coat.



I'm still undecided and open to others opinions.
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+1 for the second one
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+2 for #2...fantastic build!!
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#2

Looks sweet
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+3 for #2

Awesome
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+2

You did that with a Sharpie?

So the front will be practically all black since the woofer is black...

What about a charcoal stain with multiple coats of wipe on poly?

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You did that with a Sharpie?

So the front will be practically all black since the woofer is black...

What about a charcoal stain with multiple coats of wipe on poly?

I just sharpied a picture and scanned it, I didn't sharpie the actual box.
I've done some experimenting with staining the wood and don't like black wood grain. The black epoxy would essentially give me a piano black finish.
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How about a blend of the two - the black on the front coming around the sides like #2, but wood top/bottom like one.

And maybe extend the black more on the sides so it looks like a thicker baffle.

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How about a blend of the two - the black on the front coming around the sides like #2, but wood top/bottom like one.

And maybe extend the black more on the sides so it looks like a thicker baffle.

I'll warm up the sharpie.
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What no flames or racing stripes...?

Looking good so far...
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if your finishing skills are really good, i'd let the wood shine through and just put a black grill on the front, flush mount. the photo you have there has a washed out top. in part, that may be why #2 seems to be getting more votes, it looks more finished.


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just another idea is that you could veneer the top with just about any wood of your choice (birds eye maple?). the layering on the sides will give the illusion that whatever is on top runs the whole way through too. i still can't believe that you cut your sub out of a 2 foot stack of plywood. awesome.

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If I had that this is what I would do with it....



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Here is my very sophisticated rendering of Noah Katz' suggestion of black epoxy front carried onto the sides and top.

I agree the washed out top may make the non-black-top versions look less finished.

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just another idea is that you could veneer the top with just about any wood of your choice (birds eye maple?).

Or a black baffle and top.

Might be more practical, and now that I think about it regular grain on top might look too plain compared to the layered sides.

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I kept a pretty nice piece for the top though.



Some guys have also suggested finishing the baffle in black leather like SGR Audio or Monitor Audio speakers.




I have so many great ideas right now I have no idea which way I'm going to go.
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I kept a pretty nice piece for the top though.

I'm not crazy about fir grain, but to each his own.

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I'm not a fan of the plywood look either.. I'd say prime it, bondo it, sand it smooth, throw another coat of primer, then some black, and some clear and a lot of sanding and polishing =]

Nice shiny smooth black paint job =]
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I love this build!

When I saw you trying out some finish ideas, I thought this sub would look great with some granite details: top & baffle, maybe? I do like the side grain of the wood.

Here's kinda what i was thinkin...




great job, BTW....
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It's no Sharpie rendering, but not bad Kevin. Are you kidding me?, great job on the mock up! I love how that looks. What did you have in mind for the granite detail? Actual Granite?
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It's no Sharpie rendering, but not bad Kevin. Are you kidding me?, great job on the mock up! I love how that looks. What did you have in mind for the granite detail? Actual Granite?

or a 'granite-like' alternativegranite($$) can be costly so i dont know the budget.
I just think it looks classy with the wood & adds some more serious weight to an already cool-looking sub.
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+ for Kevin's

For a piece that small you can probably get a piece of scrap from the shop for a reasonable price. getting it cut though could be difficult
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There is no budget so I'm gonna check into granite right away.
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+ for Kevin's

For a piece that small you can probably get a piece of scrap from the shop for a reasonable price. getting it cut though could be difficult

I wonder if laser or plasma can cut granite? A buddy manages a shop that has both CNC cutters.
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As an alternative,try to get some Corian it will be a bit lighter and easier to cut the hole.

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