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I keep coming back to look at the picture of your subs. They are some sexy subs. I would love to hear them some day.
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Same here. I wish I lived closer by. I'd bring some pizza. *oooofff....hungry*


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I was pushing them pretty hard to get decent output in my room - they would get somewhat warm... which concerned me...


..... and then he just started chuckling, actually bellowed out loud when he saw the amp rack...

Is it a safe assumption that the heat transfer, or "wicking", was working? There's a lot of cone area there to help as well. I'd think a big non-metalic driver would be at a disadvantage. Curious, any good work I can read on sealed box heating. Don't believe I've ever came accross anything of that nature.



As far as the guy bellowing out in laughter upon seeing the amp rack, that just awesome. Genuine human reaction, makes it all worthwhile


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Hahhah Thats pee in the pants funny... Love it...

GF's uncle came over last night for dinner, he is an audiophile and has a bunch of McIntosh gear in his place down in florida, all custom installed by his dealer - never discussed his system with him though - he was throwing a party that night - Bluesfest in his own back yard with bands and performances by Kenny Wayne Shepard (opener), Brian Lee, Buddy Flett and so on... IN HIS BACKYARD !!! All for charity.... couldn't pass up that night....

Any who, he shows up last night and I show him around and his eyes bug out - checkin out the system... lots of questions - and then he just started chuckling, actually bellowed out loud when he saw the amp rack... Super Cool guy and I kinda got the idea he was impressed...

That is a cool story.

In this hobby you don't find a lot of people who share the same enjoyment from a fine system, when we do it does make you puff out your chest a little.

I was talking with a fellow audiophile once about how some people think the amount of money we spend on this hobby is crazy. He told me that he just tells them this:
"You wouldn't think I'm crazy if I spend $25K on a boat that I would be lucky to use 12 times a year but i'm nuts if I spend the same amount on a A/V system that me and my family can use everyday"

Did you actually fire up the system for him?

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Is it a safe assumption that the heat transfer, or "wicking", was working? There's a lot of cone area there to help as well. I'd think a big non-metalic driver would be at a disadvantage. Curious, any good work I can read on sealed box heating. Don't believe I've ever came accross anything of that nature.



As far as the guy bellowing out in laughter upon seeing the amp rack, that just awesome. Genuine human reaction, makes it all worthwhile


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I'm sure they did comprehensive thermal dynamics tests on the drivers... It would be cool to see the thermal photographs of the drivers or the videos if they had them...

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That is a cool story.

In this hobby you don't find a lot of people who share the same enjoyment from a fine system, when we do it does make you puff out your chest a little.

I was talking with a fellow audiophile once about how some people think the amount of money we spend on this hobby is crazy. He told me that he just tells them this:
"You wouldn't think I'm crazy if I spend $25K on a boat that I would be lucky to use 12 times a year but i'm nuts if I spend the same amount on a A/V system that me and my family can use everyday"

Did you actually fire up the system for him?

Agreed...
Hmmm just came back from Road America, not too far from me here. LeMans Races this weekend. We spent the day with BMW Rahal/Letterman team.. Had lunch with the drivers and Bobby Rahal. You want to see a disgusting amount of wealth tossed about - these race teams are pretty amazing....

Bobby Rahal on the left - two team drivers right.... the one with the sunglasses pulled the win today...

The little woman knows Doug Fehan from Compuware Corvette, got to spend some time in the pits with them as well... He's a great guy and saw some incredible stuff there...


These are not my pics.... But basically what we watched all day - Speed channel had it live today...



This hobby is relatively small in the big scheme of things....

I love RA, got to run the track a few times with my FJR - exhausting to say the least - after 160 miles on the 4 mile track... I am very lucky to be able to be so close - 30 mins north of here...


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Big fan of Open Wheel, and memories of Champ Cars negotiating "The Kink" flat out and blind,...nice track. I'd love the opportunity to take in an event.

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Where are you at FOH....?

Nothing like a good fall day at RA.... Of all the tracks in the world, the drivers really love coming here - great straits and wicked turns...

Running that track is serious business - I got invited to run it when Buell rented the track for the day and my good friend from the Harley dealership asked me to come.... I rode my bike and the fresh debut of the Buell 1125R all day... It was an incredible workout.... hit top speeds of 150mph on both bikes that day...
I got yelled at by the track police, they kicked my @$$ out of novice after the first 3 laps - moved me to advanced...

Heres me on the Buell....


And one of me on my bike.... A great experience, still makes me want a track bike to run on a regular basis, as my FJR is a tank - super sport touring. Nothing like the R1's or new BMW 1000rr I have been yearning for...



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btw, nice shot on the bike. I bet it was incredible on that circuit. I've never owned a bike, just a life long racing fan. Full disclosure, never really followed any bike series closely,...but just about everything else.

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btw, nice shot on the bike. I bet it was incredible on that circuit. I've never owned a bike, just a life long racing fan. Full disclosure, never really followed any bike series closely,...but just about everything else.


Thanks - racing is racing..... be it cars or bikes...

I have always been a huge fan of open wheel, and there are so many good events at RA all year long... Superbike, Vintage, and the LeMans being my favorites...

Here's video of the parade of Vintage cars after the day long events at the track in Elkhart Lake, which is basically a racing town, great for hanging out for the weekend. All these cars race the circuit throughout the weekend - quite the site to behold - all the beautiful machines....






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The vintage video is fantastic!

Have you ever had the opportunity to tour the Indianapolis Motor Speedway museum? It's got all types of machines.

I love the 60s, early 70s Can-Am and LeMans stuff in the video. Very cool.

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And then there were 3 !!!! "Book of Genesis"

Took a nice trip up to Green Bay today and picked up the last box, got it home and worked on it this afternoon. Got the speakon in and wired it up for both drivers, stuffed 4 pillows in, yanked the drivers from my old boxes. Dropped in the first driver and started taking picks of the final older version driver.

Not the final resting place for the box, but I'm exhausted. It'll be moved to behind the plasma. EQing starts on friday......









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Warp, that is such a nice setup. I can see how open that room is. Obvious to me now why you needed so much to fill it.

I was on the phone with the guy who is building my box tonight, and discovered he has an older TC sounds build in his HT. A dual opposed 18", ported. 15 cu feet!

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And then there were 3 !!!! "Book of Genesis"

Took a nice trip up to Green Bay today and picked up the last box, got it home and worked on it this afternoon. Got the speakon in and wired it up for both drivers, stuffed 4 pillows in, yanked the drivers from my old boxes. Dropped in the first driver and started taking picks of the final older version driver.

Not the final resting place for the box, but I'm exhausted. It'll be moved to behind the plasma. EQing starts on friday......

Where did you get the sub box from?
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Great set-up WD.

I do like the old red baskets, just gave the driver that little extra Bling even if you don't see it once it's installed.

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In my best Borat voice, Veaary Nniiice!

Time to measure those puppies, looking forward to hearing the results.
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Hey Warp -

Stumbled across this build thread while browsing the "new posts".

I see you are up to your usual tricks.

Absolutely fantastic work on the cabinets! Love the rounded corners, the custom feet, and the small details like blacking out the bracing inside. Quality and attention to detail throughout.

So I think you've finally done it. Here is definitely a system with the potential to blow women's clothes off!


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Very, very nice Warp!

If that's not subwoofer porn, I don't know what is. And the pics of Warp's are nice as well!

Seriously, I love the visual imagery, with the Killer Whale emanating out the top of the driver. The room is gorgeous and well appointed, love the sub top fixtures, and the DR wall appointments (btw, I hope those wine bottles are secure).

I like the way the mains are oriented with the sidewall,..i.e. the obtuse angle in which the angle of incidence is such that those side reflections blow past and arrive much later than the axial stuff. High ceiling, sidewalls that fall away, the only potential issue is off the floor so you're way ahead of many rooms right off the bat. I'm sure you've noticed this, I'm just appreciating whatcha got. Nice space.


I bet you're really into having all three subs, secure, and in the room. It's been said, but again...truly awesome project, well thought out and executed. AVS'rs will reference this work for some time.


Have fun and keep us updated, pics like that add so much, sweet.

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Hey Warp -

Stumbled across this build thread while browsing the "new posts".

I see you are up to your usual tricks.

Absolutely fantastic work on the cabinets! Love the rounded corners, the custom feet, and the small details like blacking out the bracing inside. Quality and attention to detail throughout.

Not to take anything away from Warp's new purchase and setup but he didnt build the cabinets.

These are custom cabinets made by John J over on AE Speakers. These are similar cabinets that John also builds and sells with his AE drivers. This means anyone can buy very similar cabinets.

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Not to take anything away from Warp's new purchase and setup but he didnt build the cabinets.

These are custom cabinets made by John J over on AE Speakers. These are similar cabinets that John also builds and sells with his AE drivers. This means anyone can buy very similar cabinets.

Unfortunately it's taking numerous months to get the finished!! Anyone know if others are receiving their cabs? I think only one guy posted having received one of the cabs in the AE speakers thread IIRC.

 

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Unfortunately it's taking numerous months to get the finished!! Anyone know if others are receiving their cabs? I think only one guy posted having received one of the cabs in the AE speakers thread IIRC.

Yeah, I think John didnt realize how popular his kits could be. I think he priortizes BIG professional jobs paying BIG $$$. Its what happens to many small businesses that get sort of caught with their pants down.

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Thats right Tim, penn beat me to it.... I wouldn't claim to have built such great boxes, and its statements like yours Tim (Hifisponge) that people should be taking note of here....
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Absolutely fantastic work on the cabinets! Love the rounded corners, the custom feet, and the small details like blacking out the bracing inside. Quality and attention to detail throughout.

I knew what I wanted but couldn't have achieved this level of quality myself.

All credit goes to John on the Boxes - Honestly ~ I couldn't come close to the detail of how beautiful each of them is... and putting the kind of effort in he does like the painting of the inside, using pocket screws for the bracing assembly, caulking/epoxy every seam on the bracing, the rigorous work to get those large rounded corners and seams blended in. I probably should have taken closer pics of the insides, but I guess I got caught up in the work load and getting it loaded up with wiring, stuffing, and drivers.... and for christ sakes - moving these things around.


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Yeah, I think John didnt realize how popular his kits could be. I think he priortizes BIG professional jobs paying BIG $$$. Its what happens to many small businesses that get sort of caught with their pants down.

Keep in mind - John ran into some major business crumbling issues outside the realm of these boxes with suppliers of his surround suppliers just after I ordered them and was struggling to get things straight to keep things moving, this is info that is well documented.....


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I read that recently about the AV drivers....costs are going up and I wanted another AV driver for a main speaker bass bin.

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And one of me on my bike.... A great experience, still makes me want a track bike to run on a regular basis, as my FJR is a tank - super sport touring. Nothing like the R1's or new BMW 1000rr I have been yearning for...

I never have tracked any of my bikes (R1 and 600rr) or car (s2000) and eventually sold em. Now I have have Heartland Park within jogging distance of the house.

Pics I took at the ama races last year.




My son having fun. If only I had video. He never got it up (wheelie), but he did bounce it off the rev limiter a bit.


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Very, very nice Warp!

If that's not subwoofer porn, I don't know what is. And the pics of Warp's are nice as well!

Seriously, I love the visual imagery, with the Killer Whale emanating out the top of the driver. The room is gorgeous and well appointed, love the sub top fixtures, and the DR wall appointments (btw, I hope those wine bottles are secure).

I like the way the mains are oriented with the sidewall,..i.e. the obtuse angle in which the angle of incidence is such that those side reflections blow past and arrive much later than the axial stuff. High ceiling, sidewalls that fall away, the only potential issue is off the floor so you're way ahead of many rooms right off the bat. I'm sure you've noticed this, I'm just appreciating whatcha got. Nice space.


I bet you're really into having all three subs, secure, and in the room. It's been said, but again...truly awesome project, well thought out and executed. AVS'rs will reference this work for some time.


Have fun and keep us updated, pics like that add so much, sweet.

Thanks alot FOH.... Discovery Channel was playing some of the Great White Shark stuff last night, freakin spectacular - I love those shows....



When I bought the house I was thinking about working a HT into the basement, I know how many people build those out, but IMO they start to become a destination instead of living quarters and don't get as much use down the line. With it being so large it was a very difficult task filling with bass, but I think ITs COVERED now...

The layout with corner loading certainly removed alot of the hassle with the reflection points as you have observed, just made the whole package come together all that easier. The room was really tough to start with but has come a long way over the last few years.... Lots of sound panels around which I was trying to keep from being too tacky looking, and carpet in both the DR and Great Room def helped. Corner loading the front was about the only way to go in this room.

Appreciate your attention to details, and thanks for the compliments...


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Just read through this entire thread... WOW!!! Those subs are fantastic, thanks for sharing!
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Just read through this entire thread... WOW!!! Those subs are fantastic, thanks for sharing!


Thanks irish.... fun stuff...

Things got interesting, Hooked up that 3rd sub tonight - just listening alone I had to drop the D2v output by 9db for things to start getting smoother in here, but still have enormous amounts of output.

REW sweeps start on friday and we'll post up results...


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May I ask how much the cabinets were? I'm thinking about trying one of his sub kits.... But not sure yet as I'd need an amp too. Behringer ep4000 maybe?
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May I ask how much the cabinets were? I'm thinking about trying one of his sub kits.... But not sure yet as I'd need an amp too. Behringer ep4000 maybe?

Call or email john for prices on his boxes.


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Unless it has changed, the pricing is linked on his site here ....

http://www.aespeakers.com/phpbb2/vie...php?f=3&t=2441

 

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J Dunlavy:.. if you stop to think about it, no loudspeaker can sound more accurate than it measures.

 

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