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post #181 of 343 Old 06-13-2011, 04:46 PM
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Argh.... it's Penn Jillette's love child.

I'm surprised no one has commented on the interior decor' yet
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Argh.... it's Penn Jillette's love child.

Hey! I resemble that remark

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I'm surprised no one has commented on the interior decor' yet

I'm renting the basement. Decor is the homeowner's problem unless the horns bring the ceiling down
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Nice results! Boy oh boy, you've got two massive tapped horns to play with now...........hope you've grown tired of your internals organs' current position.


I like the pic, we're about the same height, so it helps me to get a feel for how large it is.

Good job on the design/build.
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hope you've grown tired of your internals organs' current position.

Yeah, I'm sick of my spleen's attitude lately. Thinks it's so important... I'll show it.

Thanks for the positive comments

I didn't get to use the home theater yesterday due to the weather playing with the power grid. Hoping this evening will keep the power stable so I can play with the new toy again.
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I'm surprised no one has commented on the interior decor' yet

Early Trailer Park?

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Yeah, I'm sick of my spleen's attitude lately.

I have found my spleen prefers to be vented.
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After a few more days of movie watching with both tapped horns in the system, I must now conclude that adding another horn was exactly the right decision.

Watched Unstoppable the other night. 118dB sustained at listening position... not only did the two monsters have the power to move my pants legs, but my hair as well. That's a first in this room. Got up several times to monitor excursion. At no time were the SDX's moving more than an inch peak to peak. Nowhere near Xmax. Same with the Tang Band horn. All this with only 700W. I have silly headroom now - gotta love it

Some have been asking me for more detailed plans for the Tang Band horn. Since there's now been enough interest for me to spend the time to do that, I'll whip up a Sketchup model for that one as I have the time. I still don't reckon many people if any at all will try that one. I'm now confident the bracing can be omitted from it, too, but it's never going to be as wood friendly as this SDX project is.
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After a few more days of movie watching with both tapped horns in the system, I must now conclude that adding another horn was exactly the right decision.

Watched Unstoppable the other night. 118dB sustained at listening position... not only did the two monsters have the power to move my pants legs, but my hair as well. That's a first in this room. Got up several times to monitor excursion. At no time were the SDX's moving more than an inch peak to peak. Nowhere near Xmax. Same with the Tang Band horn. All this with only 700W. I have silly headroom now - gotta love it

Awesome. I'd love a couple of these, but can't imagine trying to explain to the neighbours if they saw me trying to shift them into the apartment.
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New video. Both horns at once during the fleeing Moria sequence in the first LotR movie.

This is about as loud as I've had them so far. They are capable of a lot more, but honestly, 120.5dB at listening position was loud enough, I thought.

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New video. Both horns at once during the fleeing Moria sequence in the first LotR movie.

This is about as loud as I've had them so far. They are capable of a lot more, but honestly, 120.5dB at listening position was loud enough, I thought.


Damn.....

Great job on v2, wolf....

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And now, I present a video of the driver break-in in a lame and futile attempt to make it look like there's actual progress being made:



Still a huge pile of snow out there, even though we've been above freezing for 3 days now. The warm spell is going to last a couple more days and then apparently Mother Nature thinks we need more snow and cold again

you cant free air a speaker at that much excursion for that long! Well thats what Steve Callas told me a few years back
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Damn.....

Great job on v2, wolf....

JSS

Thanks

I just finished the extended Return of the King. All I can say is wow... I've never heard it like that before. Not even at the theater. The scene inside the mountain where the skulls all come pouring in was amazing. It was like the couch tried to jump out from under me. I've had it shake before, but this was something else. All with less than 750W.

Couldn't believe the horns were pounding on me that hard without issues, so I went over and watched the SDX's while Legolas was bringing down the oliphant. Half an inch of excursion, and that's all. Unbelievable.

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you cant free air a speaker at that much excursion for that long!

They lasted all night and are bringing the bass just fine in their final home.
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I liked the LOTRs vid, ery impressive. Kicker has done a display for a couple of years now at CES IIRC where they have numerous L7's in a wall that run free air full excursion all day long for show. Any infinite baffle should be able to do it as well, only you get the output too
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Any updates with regards to movies watched with both horns running?
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Only that I've watched more movies. Some better than others for testing structural integrity. Most recent bass movie I watched was Battle: LA. Nice LFE, terrible movie.

Still haven't had them over 120dB at LP, even though I know they're more than capable of it. Hard to do that when my mains can't handle running hot enough to keep up.
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New video... Flight of the Phoenix plane crash this time. Had the LFE running just a wee bit hot - measured 124dB at LP just before the camera started recording. Too bad I didn't catch it doing that on video.

Had to bolt the Tang Band horn (top) to the SDX horn (bottom) after this. It tried to walk right off of there. I also added some chain at the very top so the pair of them won't fall over as a unit.

They will still go louder than this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdjMynVds8E
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I'm renting the basement. Decor is the homeowner's problem unless the horns bring the ceiling down

Oh wow youre HT is that loud and you rent! You must have worked out a deal for your neighbor to use your HT too!
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Not so much - I just don't run it that loud when people are in the house. Most listening is done at or slightly past reference.
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over 120dB form some 10's... shame on me needing 4 18's to do the same! I must admit after my builds and watching you guys, I'd love to do my HT and van all over again... so much less to get the same or more. less than 500 watts to your LFE?
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Two 10's and two 8x12's. Less than 700W. Each TH is getting 350W at 8 ohms.
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the 8x12's, did you make cids breaking them in free air? maybe one had something in the gap that you removed?
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Yep, and yep. That one that had the debris in the gap is still holding up just fine.
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Those are in tapped horns as well right? What is the knee of those, how well do they integrate with the SDX, and how much power on those? My OCD says don't mix and match...but obviousely it works!
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They're in my Tang Band horn, Wolfhorn II.

The knee (low corner, Fc, or what have you) on the TB horn is just below 16Hz, while the SDX horn is at about 16.3Hz. Pretty close. Like I said, each horn is getting 350W. That's all they need to get good and loud in here.

The TB horn integrates rather well with the SDX one. It's more sensitive, so I had to pay attention to calibrating my levels, but other than that I set up my highpass for the SDX design (since those drivers are more sensitive to improper highpass) and let it rip. There's no way any of these drivers will bottom out - I'll run out of amp first.
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For some reason back when I saw your LOTR's vid I thought each SDX was in it's own horn stacked on eachother. 2 horns, 2 drivers each, got it
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Oklahoma Wolf how do you post windows from Hornresp?

I dont know how and figured I would just ask you seeing that you have posted them before.
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I use (in Windows) alt + print screen, and then paste the screen grab into an appropriate imaging program. Paint Shop Pro, in my case.
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I seem to not be able to do that on my computer.(Windows)

I have the PRTSC above my numbers keypad but it does nothing when pushing the alt + PRTSC.

Just trying to figure out how to post these windows so others can see what I am doing instead of my describing it in posts.
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when you press the print screen button you dont see anything happen. then you go to Paint and right click, paste
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I was able to add the screen shot to Word doc and paint but its a bit hard with paint because I never use it.
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OK thanks everyone. I was able to play with paint and finally got my windows posted on my thread.

Does the displacement in hornresp measure both ways?

Meaning when it states 22mm excursion that is both ways correct? So for a 11mm Xmax driver you are hitting 22mm both ways yes?

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