Originally Posted by ricocetj
As entertaining as it has been to read through this thread, my reaction to this post was one of such disbelief that I had to go back and re-read to make sure I wasn't completely imagining things. I wasn't.
Bosso, this thread was plowing along without any participation from Craig until this post by you:
So, you can throw whatever criticism towards CHT's products that you'd like, but Craig is not allowed to respond, is that it? It's very convenient to be able to spin it and tell Craig "this thread is not about you" when he does respond, no?
Apparently you haven't read this thread at all.
Craig showed up on page 1, post #24.
Craig invited himself here to whine about the CEA standard, which he began to disparage in the VTF-15H thread at his CHT forum when he decided that he should post CEA numbers immediately on the CHT website for his subs "at the request of his potential customers..." Blah, blah.
Others had pinged me about the situation, so it was obvious to lots of folks, except apparently yourself, that Chase was in a bit of panic mode to deal with the newly posted Hsu numbers. The chosen course of action? Put the CEA standard down. A tact which uninvited Craig brought to this thread.
The post you cite is post #138, in which I mentioned that "It's fun to watch", you know, as in entertaining. Or is it somehow that only you can be entertained by this stuff?
Years ago, Dave Bott gave us DIYers our own forum to avoid threads like this one. 'X' product fans or outright shills posting with the philosophy that putting the other guy down will somehow elevate yourself, as well as downright childish whining.
Here, we don't have product loyalty diseases. We discuss the merits and/or the problems with every alignment and every tweak surrounding them without any family members bursting in to add nothing more than some emotional outburst.
We question the numbers. output, max output, group delay, response vs room transfer function, distortion, FR non-linearity, excursion, thermal compression, amplifier technologies, auditory masking, ELC, ULF, VLF, ELF, ETC...
Sometimes it gets a bit heated, but no one runs to the principal to tell, and everyone generally understands that the knowledge that's gained is well worth any ruffled feathers that may result.
If you want to believe that the idea for using dual opposed Eminence built drivers in a sealed box that has a footprint to work well with a corner powered by an amp that has no additional high pass filtering and amplifying a signal shaped by a Linkwitz Transform bi-quad filter is a subwoofer design that Craig Chase dreamed up "in the 70s" (Yes, he told me that with a straight face, after he called me "junior" and told me I was clueless regarding subwoofer design, amongst other gems), then have at it, and have a nice day.
It's preferable that you have something to add to the thread beyond your abilities as a critic of other's posts, if you decide to continue posting here.