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Some members here were thinking of a flat pack enclosure for the Anarchy 6.5" tapped horn that lilmike designed here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1238398

Everyone seems to love it and the Tang Band 6.5" sub from Parts Express can be used also. I'm already setting up a group buy for the Autotech waveguides and figured I'd look into this as well. I called around to get 3 estimates. Two local ones were about $160, one was $186, and the other in Northern KY was much less.

Here's the initial thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1309344

It's seems like the Anarchy flat pack will be around $70. I met with the guy and it turned out to be a pretty good business. For his price he would cut all the grooves on the inside panel so everything fits together real nice, dado cut the long edges, cut driver holes, etc. He is going to be cutting them from 5'x5' Baltic birch. The other guys were just birch.



Okay, there was some discussion from the CNC guy about routing rabbet edges on all corners, and carving panel numbers on the back of each piece. I don't think it's really going to change the price. If it does, we may just pass on those "luxury" additions to keep the price at $70. He's going to get me a "prototype" box within a week and I'll see if it goes together properly. After that, he said about a week or so to start cutting.

I looked around and found some shipping boxes on line that have a 200 lb rating for a little under $2 each. So that takes it to about $72. Obviously I might have to find some small pieces of styrofoam for packaging, but you get the idea, it shouldn't be too much at all.



Long story short, if you're at all interested in this, please let me know either by posting here, or sending a private message. You're not signing your life away right now, or paying for them yet. You can change your mind. The good thing is that this is a fairly close company to me, I can just call in small orders for those that definitely want them. So that means even though it's a group buy, there really isn't any reason to pay anyone until they actually come in. Plus I want to make sure they're good before anyone commits.



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These are pretty quick directions, but they help:

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The woofer gets mounted on it's front face shooting into the horn. Use the gasket material supplied. If you need any other directions just ask or let me know where I need to expand on them.


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UPDATE: Feb. 14


Test box has arrived!

Keep in mind, these photos show the box held together with just some masking tape, no glue yet. Obviously once it's assembled with glue it will be even better. They taped it up for me so I could see it assembled.

I took the top lid off. Notice the edges of the large side panel, it nests right into the box to seal up nicely! If you look close, you can see the pilot holes they drilled to hold the inner panels while the glue dries.




Close up of joints: Nice.




Side panels (both panels have grooves cut). Notice letters carved in the panel to show which piece goes where.




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Any idea how much one flat pack will weigh?
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Not yet, it looks to be about 80-85% of a 1/2" Baltic birch 5'x5' panel.



I'm not sure how much shipping will be until I get the first flat pack cabinet. After that, I'll get it weighed and you'll be able to figure out shipping on the UPS/Fedex websites from my zipcode. It should pack very nicely in a thin box.


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I'm interested in purchasing 2.
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I'm interested in purchasing 2.

Sounds good. We're up to 35 or 36 right now.


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Don't recall if I made it official in the other thread or not, but put me down for two (boxes & drivers).
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Here is what a guestimate for two is from FedEx.
I'm totally guessing on the weight & dimensions though.
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Here is what a guestimate for two is from FedEx.
I'm totally guessing on the weight & dimensions though.
CZ Eddie, I was just coming in to make a post about weight. In the fall I cut all the pieces for 1 Anarchy cabinet but didn't get around to putting it together because I had other things to work on first. Looks like that's a good thing now.


Anyway, I don't have a scale so I borrowed my neighbors. Assuming his scale is correct I just stacked everything up and it should weigh about 30 lbs. Now that was cut from Home Depots 1/2" birch plywood, but my actual weight was 25.2 lbs. So I'm guessing it should come in under 30lbs with Baltic. So you're very close because you were figuring weight on 2 cabinets.

The packaging box won't need to be very thick at all, like 5" for 2 cabinets I was hoping to use something like these boxes:

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...rrugated-Boxes


But the 30" wide portion isn't going to give enough room for protection. So I need to locate something about 32" wide. Then find some way of protecting the edges.


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For edge protection, wrap it with scraps of the plywood or use MDF. If you wanted to - you could brad-nail this in place, then you're essentially shipping a board. Shippers will still find a way to damage it....

Another option would be rigid foam sheet. Zero weight added, and some crush-protection too.

A wrap of stretch-wrap to hold it all in place across both dimensions, then a wrap of bubble around the outside in each direction, and box it up.

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A wrap of stretch-wrap to hold it all in place across both dimensions, then a wrap of bubble around the outside in each direction, and box it up.
THIS! Just stack all the pieces together, from largest to smallest, then tightly wrap them all together with stretch-wrap - maybe 2-3 wraps in each direction, then wrap that whole thing in one 1/2" bubble wrap, and then box it up. It'll probably end up being about a 5-6" thick box with the packaging materials.

I'd be willing to be the guinea pig to receive the first shipment to make sure it arrives safely as packaged, and if there are any issue then modifications can be made before the rest are sent out.
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Just stack all the pieces together, from largest to smallest
Alternatively, you could sandwhich all the smaller pieces between the two largest, then protect the edges.
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If you're going to be shipping a lot of these, which it looks like you will based on the response so far, it might be worth it to have a custom shipping box made for them to ensure the best fit. You would just need to take one of the flatpacks to a local box company and have them make a custom box to fit around it. The box company I use for my business makes custom 49" x 5" x 5" for me and they only charge about $2.00/box, with a min order of just 25 boxes. So if you can find a company like that near you, that might be the best route (plus then you don't need to ship them from Uline and pay for shipping). And then can also probably advise you on the best way to package them as well.
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If you're going to be shipping a lot of these, which it looks like you will based on the response so far, it might be worth it to have a custom shipping box made for them to ensure the best fit. You would just need to take one of the flatpacks to a local box company and have them make a custom box to fit around it. The box company I use for my business makes custom 49" x 5" x 5" for me and they only charge about $2.00/box, with a min order of just 25 boxes. So if you can find a company like that near you, that might be the best route (plus then you don't need to ship them from Uline and pay for shipping). And then can also probably advise you on the best way to package them as well.


If you get a chance, maybe you can ask the company you deal with? Maybe I'll see if I can find a local company on Monday.

I was looking through the ULINE boxes and I found only one box that would work perfectly on this particular flat pack. It's a 200 lb test, 32" x 24" and it has a variable depth of 1", 2', 4", and 6" so they would work with 1 or 2 kits. But they're $3.48 before shipping.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...y-Fold-Mailers



Just checked. Looks like they would be $3.75 each including shipping. That's not too bad I guess and only $1.75 more than I figured. The variable depth would be nice too. So this is worst case scenario right now.


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http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...y-Fold-Mailers

Just checked. Looks like they would be $3.75 each including shipping. That's not too bad I guess and only $1.75 more than I figured. The variable depth would be nice too. So this is worst case scenario right now.

That box actually looks PERFECT! I like that you can fold it up around the item, because then you can make it a perfect fit no matter how tall the package is. And it would be very convenient to be able to use the same box for either one or two kits. And $3.75 delivered actually isn't too bad of a price. I say go with that one.

Maybe just get like a 10-pack to start out and send out the first 10 shipments with them and see if there are any issues, and if not then buy a larger quantity to send out the rest .
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Erich,

Please add me to the list for 2 units.

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Please add me to the list for 2 units.

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You have been added. I'll post a list later so everyone can make sure they're on it.


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I am not sure how many as of yet. Hopefully 2, possibly 4. Though I have to confirm. I might end up convincing my friend to get some THT's when I build mine.

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Updated list for guys that *might* buy:

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I'm pretty sure I'm in for 2 if they can be shipped USPS. I've only got access to the APO (military) mail system.
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Please add 1 to the list for me. And thanks Erich, for tracking this down!
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Don't recall if I made it official in the other thread or not, but put me down for two (boxes & drivers).

How come I'm only on the list for one?
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How come I'm only on the list for one?

Because you're being punished!

Actually, I thought at one earlier point you said you'd be interested, but didn't mention how many. It's been fixed, time to celebrate!

Don't worry though, that list is not set in stone. It's just to get a general idea and help track it better.


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What are the recommended amps for these subs? How many subs can be driven by the amp? Links to the amps? Oh and being that we are both in Cincy could I work out a deal if I was to purchase to pick up?
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So, would we just be putting in an order for the sub kit and ordering the driver ourselves?
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What are the recommended amps for these subs? How many subs can be driven by the amp? Links to the amps? Oh and being that we are both in Cincy could I work out a deal if I was to purchase to pick up?

A nice cheap amp is Jack Hindley's NHT plate amp for $35. These subs only take about 100w max, and those plate amps put out 80w into 8 ohms (or 115w into 4 ohms if you want to run two in parallel off the same amp). And they even have a HPF filter which is necessary to keep the subs from bottoming out. The stock HPF is 29hz in Ver.1 or 20hz in Ver.2, but you can modify it to 25hz for this sub.

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