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Do you know which manufacture this was found in?

I found a thread with that pic but it didnt come from an FP clone or the like is my understanding. Right?

Not that I'm aware of. I think it was just being used as an example. And yes, it was on an audiophile forum.

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Not that I'm aware of. I think it was just being used as an example. And yes, it was on an audiophile forum.


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I have been browsing these forums and chatting tho Chap for a wile but decided to bite the bullet and get a FP14000. It arrived real fast, looks great, feels solid and man does it have some gain. I needed to go down to about 25db from the default 44 to feel a bit safer and still be able to clip it in non live testing. I was quite impressed by its performance and build quality, the power cable is real chunky as well.

I have been talking to Sanway and they do make their own cased/branded series that has the same internal workings as these clones called the FB series rather than FP. They are $50 or so cheaper than the lab looking clones and also offer the advantage of drawing less copy-write attention.

Sanway also make an ashley 4-8 system processor but they also have made their own original processor which seams to have better spec. The fact that they seam to have original electronic designs as well as being a speaker manufacturer give me a little bit of confidence that Im not sure many other cloning companies could provide.

I plan on getting a FB-10000q now as well.

On a side note I found a guy is Australia that gets these amps built to his specific spec, then re-solders the important bits and then sells them locally for $2500 a pop! He provides one year warranty and wouldn't reveal the actual manufacturer. I dont think he sells enough to private buyers to be too concerned about copywrite but over double the price for local warranty just seamed silly to me considering how nice the sanways seam to be.

Anyway I thought I would share this experience and info with you all.
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As I have chatted with you before I am happy you have a good working product. I am interested in the other cases. I will have to contact them again and see what all they have again. I almost bought some plate amps from them a few weeks ago but life got in the way.

BUT I do like the wood front Bosso had on his. Would be nice to duplicate that.


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Being a "sanway reseller" would be tough without a marketing strategy, especially if the units look like trademarked items.

It is unlikely that they would file a lawsuit halfway across the world though... Legal fees and travel would probably kill them.
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What do the branded models look like if not the LG style?

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What do the branded models look like if not the LG style?
Ugly in my opinion
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I almost bought some plate amps from them
Now I am curious about these, they don't seam to be in their catalog/brochure, what are the specs?

The FB series does look worse but I have some high res pics and they dont look so bad, I would peel the tacky badges off immediately though.

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Sanway has a LOT of products. I have tried some of their drivers and will probably try one of their plate amps. I had been looking for a cheap PA speaker to buy instead of build and they came to mind. When I figured shipping might be too expensive I asked about them selling components instead. He said they would that also.

SO when you look at the powered PA mains that they sell they can sell the amp out of that configuration. I never went with it yet because I keep having to deal with other things , life and not enough money to go around. I still have to ask him a bunch of questions in regards to the plate amps though. After chatting with Hypex for a while also I kinda started thinking about using them instead. BUT money talks.

I am very excited that another 240Vac Fp14000 has been bought from them and is working just fine.


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What do the branded models look like if not the LG style?
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http://www.china-sanway.com/Product....ower Amplifier
Well no wonder they copied the look of LG products... Theirs looks like crap...

The sanway logo looks kinda stupid too.
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I am very excited that another 240Vac Fp14000 has been bought from them and is working just fine.

What payment form do they require at sanway?

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I am very excited that another 240Vac Fp14000 has been bought from them and is working just fine.

What payment form do they require at sanway?
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I thought they were direct deposit only?


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I thought they were direct deposit only?
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Well thats good news to me then. Be it old news to everyone else.


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Hello,

I ordered 1 piece FP14000 @sanway , mr. Johnson Tang sent me one last friday and i received it yesterday. Man that's quick!

Amplifier was double boxed. I unpacked it and my opinion so far is: This amp is really well built, robust on the outside and well finished! i haven't tested it yet (not enough time).

If it works properly, and if it is reliable, i'd say it's a good buy, this amp is definitely better built than other brands like Behringer

Payment was easy by PayPal.

EDIT:

Tested it yesterday and it works like a charm . My subs go much louder now, it blows 2 bridged Crown i-tech 4000 (rentals) amps away! I hope this amp its reliability is long-lasting.
I'm happy with it, i'm really considering on going to order an other one later on.

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What up guys... Do we still have any buyers of old non-working clones lurking around? I have an old FP14K posted up in the classifieds if anyone is interested.

Getting ready for a move and I don't want to have to put that beast in storage.

 

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What up guys... Do we still have any buyers of old non-working clones lurking around? I have an old FP14K posted up in the classifieds if anyone is interested.

Getting ready for a move and I don't want to have to put that beast in storage.
Just to check, are the Sanway clones 110/220v switchable like the genuine LG items are?

I'm just thinking about options around buying a 'known quantity' amp secondhand from the US or buying direct from China.


Not that I should be looking, I've not even got my first build with a CV5000 up and running yet and upgradeitis is already setting in... lol
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Just to check, are the Sanway clones 110/220v switchable like the genuine LG items are?

I'm just thinking about options around buying a 'known quantity' amp secondhand from the US or buying direct from China.


Not that I should be looking, I've not even got my first build with a CV5000 up and running yet and upgradeitis is already setting in... lol
I wish! If it was switchable to 220V I'd be taking it with me... =)

I'm a fan of the CV5000. Good amp for a 5,000watt load @ 4ohm. Hummm, in fact....I think I just found my new amp choice for my 24's.

Thanks man!

 

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I wish! If it was switchable to 220V I'd be taking it with me... =)

I'm a fan of the CV5000. Good amp for a 5,000watt load @ 4ohm. Hummm, in fact....I think I just found my new amp choice for my 24's.

Thanks man!
Pop are you going to be running the 16 SI 18's and the SI 24's at your new place?
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Pop are you going to be running the 16 SI 18's and the SI 24's at your new place?
No sir. Can't accommodate bringing the 18's so they will be boxed up for a while in storage...just waiting for me to come home.

I'm only going to be able to bring the 24's with me to my new place. Space isn't the issue...We are restricted on the weight of house hold goods we can ship with us overseas. The 24's represent the best "pound for pound" option available to me at this point in time.

 

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No sir. Can't accommodate bringing the 18's so they will be boxed up for a while in storage...just waiting for me to come home.

I'm only going to be able to bring the 24's with me to my new place. Space isn't the issue...We are restricted on the weight of house hold goods we can ship with us overseas. The 24's represent the best "pound for pound" option available to me at this point in time.
Oh wow I didn't realize you're moving overseas. Two SI 24's then?
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Why do you have to be a world away with a 24" setup? That really takes it out of the cards for me to drive over and listen...

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Oh wow I didn't realize you're moving overseas. Two SI 24's then?
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Why do you have to be a world away with a 24" setup? That really takes it out of the cards for me to drive over and listen...
Guess you'll just have to make due with that epic Avatar until you and Megs make the trip to come check out my hut in the desert!

Or you'll just one up me in a few months when you scoop up a pair of those one-off custom 10,000 watt / 69mm xmax / XBL^2 motor / frankenwoofers Nick is secretly tooling together in his warehouse dungeon for sealed-ported applications...

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I wish! If it was switchable to 220V I'd be taking it with me... =)
They don't have a selector switch, but they can be changed back and forth. Just ask Johnson for the instructions. I think it's just a matter of making some soldering changes and swapping out the fuses.
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