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Let's talk about book-matching.
You should be able to see the pattern repeated in the edges of these three sheets.




If you flip a sheet--like turning the pages in a book--you get a mirror image of the two sheets. This can increase the beauty of the veneer job. What you see here is a simple book-match. You can get more creative with a mirror. I'll go into that another time.




Far be it from me to hand you guys a great reason to get more tools.
Having said that, let's square up the next set of four with a veneer saw.




Very nice. Excellent results. I'm very happy with this veneer saw.




And this also performed well on a stack of 8.



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PI, your woodwork is so awesome that it forced me to post on this website for the 1st time in 2011!
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To trim the front and back edges, I just folded down the veneer and sanded it off for a splinter-free result.






Same thing on the back.




Since I trimmed these and got good edges for joining them, I didn't overlap and somehow ended up with some small gaps between sheets.




I sanded before peeling the tape off, to minimize lifting of any wood putty.




Then peeled off the tape and sanded again.
Okay, that's an eye-sore.
Let's try something different.




I used the veneer saw to clean out the putty and to widen the gap a little, so I could insert some veneer on edge into the gap, using a gel super glue.




It's hard to see, but the area to the right of the repair strip has already received this repair as a test and it blends much better.




A small sanding drum grinds it down close.




Then just sand it the rest of the way.
This is still the same area you saw before.
I moved it out into the sunlight to make sure you could see the final results of the gap repairs and it is a little washed out from the sun.



Same area zoomed in as far as my lens can go.



This is the overlap getting sanded. To the right, the overlap has been sanded off already. There is no gap. There should be no gap anyway, I just goofed earlier and showed you how I recovered from the mistake.

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PI, your woodwork is so awesome that it forced me to post on this website for the 1st time in 2011!

It's very kind of you to say so.
By the way, my wife is from Columbus. Go Buckeyes!
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I just truly love your builds!

Learn something in each one.

I've got two big horns that need to be built ; )

Or should I say I have some wood and speakers that need to be turned into horns
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This is an awesome thread and I'm amazed by your work and creativity of fixing problems. Really makes me look forward to getting out of my college apartment so i can have a house with a garage and toolshop!

Where did you get your veneer from? Looks to be really nice
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Thanks, guys.
I got the veneer off Ebay.
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Thanks, guys.
I got the veneer off Ebay.

I never thought of that. Just searched a little on there, and I think I'll pick some up. Great prices.
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Finishing has barely begun on one cabinet.
The second cabinet still needs some more sanding.
And I haven't done anything more with the front baffles yet.

The first curved side that I veneered didn't look quite right, because I hadn't trimmed the veneer pieces to square them up and the tapers added up, producing some slanted joint lines.

I came very close to veneering over that whole side to straighten things up, but I decided it wasn't all that bad after all and that I can live with it.

Here is that side.




Same side, different angle. Remember, I had absolutely no gap between veneer sheets, so you have to look really close to even see the joints.




Same side again. Like I say, I think I can live with it.




The results of angling the veneer sheets on the top were unimpressive, but I'm glad to have tried something different.






Remember the side with all the gaps between veneer sheets that I had to fill?
This is that side and I think it looks okay.

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Remember the side with all the gaps between veneer sheets that I had to fill?
This is that side and I think it looks okay.

HAHA, just "okay"???? It looks great!
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Remember the side with all the gaps between veneer sheets that I had to fill?
This is that side and I think it looks okay.


Orange peel!? Sure you had one day for finishing, but I expected more from you than that PI.[/sarcasm]

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I have seen enough PI builds to know he is going to buff it out or something. You have to have faith that the next episode is when he gets to the orange peel and how he removed it. Knowing PI I wouldn't be be surprised if he purposely did the orange peel to show us newbie's an easy way he found to remove it.

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Thanks, guys.

Yeah, I barely started on the finish.
That's not really orange peel, by the way. I just haven't filled in all the grain yet. So far, I have sprayed 4 thin, light coats. Really thin coats, because I hate sanding out runs. I'll go into finishing a bit more later. For now, I was really concerned about the appearance of the side with the slanted veneer joint lines and the opposite side with all the gaps that had to be filled. Not to mention that I just wanted to see how this Bubinga veneer looks with some finish on it. I've never used this veneer before. I like the way it looks.

With this fourth light coat, it just began to shine a little for the first time.

More on finishing later. For now, this was just a quick check to get an idea of how it will look when done.
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Lacquer or poly?

JSS
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Lacquer or poly?

JSS
It's poly. I do want to give lacquer a try, but for now, I just went with what I have in the garage.
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I'm quite interested in how finishing goes. Just bought some figured eucalyptus veneer on eBay. Looks nice in the pictures?
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Hold on just one second here! At first I thought those 2 darker spots looked like eyes on a smiling troll. But after looking at it just one more time, I was wrong.

I actually see a Santa Claus face. With a full beard! Anyone else see good ole Santa over there on the right side???? See them beady eyes! Oh man, there's a mirror image on the left too!

What are you trying to pull here PassingInterest????

Okay, so maybe I'm seeing things.

The shine looks great, man those are going to turn out really nice. Can't wait to see them completely finished.
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I'm quite interested in how finishing goes. Just bought some figured eucalyptus veneer on eBay. Looks nice in the pictures?
An excellent choice! I know it is going to look great on whatever you build.


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What are you trying to pull here PassingInterest????
You don't think I gave up on subliminal messages, do you?
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Hold on just one second here! At first I thought those 2 darker spots looked like eyes on a smiling troll. But after looking at it just one more time, I was wrong.

I actually see a Santa Claus face. With a full beard! Anyone else see good ole Santa over there on the right side???? See them beady eyes! Oh man, there's a mirror image on the left too!

What are you trying to pull here PassingInterest????

Okay, so maybe I'm seeing things.

The shine looks great, man those are going to turn out really nice. Can't wait to see them completely finished.

I don't know, right between the 2 Santa faces is an evil fu manchu giving me the stink eye. It's the old good vs evil conundrum playing it-self out right here in a PI build, what will the man think of next

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I don't know, right between the 2 Santa faces is an evil fu manchu giving me the stink eye. It's the old good vs evil conundrum playing it-self out right here in a PI build, what will the man think of next

Ohhhhh man, the ole stink eye!

PassingInterest, you've created the Yin-Yang of all subwoofers!


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It's poly. I do want to give lacquer a try, but for now, I just went with what I have in the garage.

Hope your shop is air conditioned ... spraying lacquer in the Texas heat will dry before it hits the surface...

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Hope your shop is air conditioned ... spraying lacquer in the Texas heat will dry before it hits the surface...

Nah, he's hardcore. Probably up spraying at 5am, when its a chilly 82 degrees.

I am quite done with all this heat in DFW, thank you very much. Not having an A/C'd shop myself has really put a damper on getting WW projects done!

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Nah, he's hardcore. Probably up spraying at 5am, when its a chilly 82 degrees.

I am quite done with all this heat in DFW, thank you very much. Not having an A/C'd shop myself has really put a damper on getting WW projects done!

C.

I feel sorry for you guys with the 45 straight days of 100 plus temps and no rain...hope some relief is on it's way.

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You know, I always get a warm fuzzy feeling when I read PI's build threads, mainly because of the cool tools he has:

PI's Dremel Multi-Max:


My Dremel Multi-Max:


But then I remember just how cool his tools are:

PI's router table:


My router table:


And yes, I staged that picture in my truck, just like PI did!

Fantastic build so far PI!

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pi, nice choice on veneer. did you throw any stain or sealer or anything on before putting on the poly or is that just the natural color of the wood? like others, i'm really enjoying your thread! that cab looks like something that might have a $25k price tag attached to it. ;-)

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My router table:

I like the way you take pictures, Chris. You got talent.

Thanks for the compliments and encouragement, guys!

Kanaris--Thanks for the tip on spraying lacquer when it's too hot.

LTD02--This Bubinga veneer has had no stain or sealer or anything applied to it on the face side before I started spraying the poly. More on that tomorrow. My plan for tomorrow is to alternate between spraying a coat on the two boxes and while it dries, work on the front baffles. That's the plan, anyway. A $25,000 price tag, eh? I am underpaid when I work for myself.

Thanks again, guys.
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"This Bubinga veneer has had no stain or sealer or anything applied to it on the face side before I started spraying the poly"

that is amazing. look forward to learning more as on the face it turned out awesome.

"Thanks again, guys."

the thanks is ours.

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Erich H and MJAudio--What is with you guys? Seeing images of things in the veneer. I don't see anything.

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[quote=BeerParty;20794515]
PI's router table:


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That is one sexy table tho! Dont know about the truck but digging that table ; )
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that router table is sweet. did you built it yourself, PI? got any plans laying around? lol. i still don't have a router table and i'm trying to decide if i really need one or not.

it's really great that you explain things that didn't quite work out with the build and the various paths you took to correct them. very valuable info.

that bubinga looks incredible. now i'm wishing i got a little more extravagant with my veneer selection for my recent build

i just picked up that two-cherries saw recently myself and it does to a pretty good job. i can't believe i didn't think to try the multi-tool... that seems like the perfect power tool for the job.
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