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post #1051 of 1078 Old 06-03-2014, 03:52 PM - Thread Starter
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These have to be packaged in 2 boxes due to weight. After work today I boxed up one package of the larger 30" x 30" panels using a new type of closed cell foam. It's very spongy. Dropped the packaged from about 3' up a few times and it actually bounces when it hits the floor and no damage to the wood. I think it was about 50lbs and bounced a few inches up. eek.gif I didn't drop it directly on the corner because I didn't want to ding the shipping box up too badly, but the corners are protected pretty good on the inside either way.
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Hmmmmm, three feet, eh? My UPS guy is probably 5.0' tall with long arms, so that should be good!

Your packaging is phenomenal, especially given the weight and awkwardness of most of these packages. You should seriously think about a side consulting business on packaging and shipping...you know in your spare time!
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C'mon, Erich...1099 flat pack boxes coming my way???? You can't be too busy with everything else and the SEOS Maximus! biggrin.gif
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These have to be packaged in 2 boxes due to weight. After work today I boxed up one package of the larger 30" x 30" panels using a new type of closed cell foam. It's very spongy. Dropped the packaged from about 3' up a few times and it actually bounces when it hits the floor and no damage to the wood. I think it was about 50lbs and bounced a few inches up. eek.gif I didn't drop it directly on the corner because I didn't want to ding the shipping box up too badly, but the corners are protected pretty good on the inside either way.

 

One end of one of my 1099 boxes looked like an accordion when it was delivered but no damage to the contents.  You're definitely not wasting time testing the packaging.

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Erich, any idea of cost yet based on your initial findings with the packaging and weight? Do you think both packages will come in right around 50 lbs? I think you said the box is cut from a single sheet of MDF which would put materials in the 90-95 pound range, so with packaging materials I would think 2x50lbs would be about where you'd land.
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They aren't actually cut from just a single sheet of 4x8. But after all is said and done, each package should be right around 50lbs each.
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These have to be packaged in 2 boxes due to weight. After work today I boxed up one package of the larger 30" x 30" panels using a new type of closed cell foam. It's very spongy. Dropped the packaged from about 3' up a few times and it actually bounces when it hits the floor and no damage to the wood. I think it was about 50lbs and bounced a few inches up. eek.gif I didn't drop it directly on the corner because I didn't want to ding the shipping box up too badly, but the corners are protected pretty good on the inside either way.

Is it orange closed cell foam? The one you used for packing on the flat pack I had ordered from you?

It arrived perfectly intact! No issues! biggrin.gif
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They aren't actually cut from just a single sheet of 4x8. But after all is said and done, each package should be right around 50lbs each.

Gotcha. Actually I now recall you talking about larger sheets of MDF (that I didn't even know were available) a month or two back.

How much does shipping generally range on two 50# packages from your experience?
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^^^ Not just larger sheets, but multiple identical pieces from some sheets and different multiple identical pieces from other sheets, eh?
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Forum member Hoodcom is talking about the dual opposed 8cuft model. Weighs just a little less than the ported 18" and goes in 2 packages as well. You'll have to ask him about shipping costs but it's going to vary a decent amount depending on how far they're going.
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Erich,

At what point does it make sense cost wise to ship freight verses standard ground? Like say someone ordered 2 flat packs from you, or 4 meaning 200lbs (4 boxes) or 400lbs (8 boxes) cost wise at what point does it work out cheaper to throw all the boxes on a pallet and ship them freight?
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I signed up for a FedEx freight account, but haven't really used it. It will depend on how far away you are whether freight makes more sense. I'd guess once you get up over 300 - 400 lbs it might make sense, but I'm really not sure. I could start checking when the weights get over 300lbs.
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I signed up for a FedEx freight account, but haven't really used it. It will depend on how far away you are whether freight makes more sense. I'd guess once you get up over 300 - 400 lbs it might make sense, but I'm really not sure. I could start checking when the weights get over 300lbs.

Cool, I was just curious if it made sense for people ordering 2+ flat packs. I'm probably going to buy 2 from you and I live in NY.
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Trying to find pics of the 18" ported box. Is it ported through the top of the box? What's the tune?

 

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Also Eric, have you ever done ported boxes for 15" drivers? I'm moving into a house with a huge family room so will likely be going from sealed to ported, and may use my AE AV15H drivers in ported enclosures if they can offer decent performance in a ported box.

 

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Erich, Any idea on the cost of the new flatpacks yet?

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Trying to find pics of the 18" ported box. Is it ported through the top of the box? What's the tune?

Pics are in post #749 of this thread. It is ported to the side of the box; Erich will have 2 options available one for a left-firing port and one for right-firing port. The tune is ~20hz.
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I'm not 100% sure on cost yet, but wanted to get the web page started. I will be tweaking the way the site calculates the shipping charges today. If it's around 500-600 miles away from Ohio, it's not bad at all for 2 packages weighing over 100lbs. But shipping to the west coast will be expensive either way.

I only have the ones with the port firing to the right side right now. The left shooters will be coming soon with other stuff.
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What happened to the Anarchy Tapped Horns? They gone for good or just out of stock?
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Neither, I'm just reworking the way the subwoofers are listed. I'll get them back up in a day or so.
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Erich, about when do you plan on having the one available with the port on the other side? I'd want to scoop 2 up at the same time.
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Those are going to be cut in a week or two. Both were suppose to be done at the same time, but it didn't quite happen that way. I wouldn't wait too long.....
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Erich, about when do you plan on having the one available with the port on the other side? I'd want to scoop 2 up at the same time.
Just wondering if you could just rotate the box so the port is on the other side since it is a square box with the driver in the center. The port would be at the top of the box instead of the bottom when rotated. Does that make a difference in response if the port is not at ground level (either facing up or to the side at a point higher than ground level)?

I personally have no idea but I'm just asking.
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Just wondering if you could just rotate the box so the port is on the other side since it is a square box with the driver in the center. The port would be at the top of the box instead of the bottom when rotated. Does that make a difference in response if the port is not at ground level (either facing up or to the side at a point higher than ground level)?

I personally have no idea but I'm just asking.
I'm sure sound wise it would be fine and not make a difference, just aesthetically I would want both of the ports to be in the same spot on both enclosures. I'm big into symmetry.
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I'm sure sound wise it would be fine and not make a difference, just aesthetically I would want both of the ports to be in the same spot on both enclosures. I'm big into symmetry.

Ahhhh ok...makes sense. I'd be the same way if they were going to be visible in my setup. :-)
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Those are going to be cut in a week or two. Both were suppose to be done at the same time, but it didn't quite happen that way. I wouldn't wait too long.....
What do you mean you wouldn't wait too long? Are you thinking by the time the ones with the port on the other side are ready the initial batch is going to be gone?
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