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So ill go ahead and get this new sub build thread going. Ill start with a quote from my displacement thread and hopefully we will see some progress and a finished product by end of next week

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I was looking at my last post there, after reading this entire thread back through I decided to do something and stop talking about all this crap. For now it will be a surprise although Josh is in the know here. I am planning on scooping some more auruco this weekend since I used two of the three panels I bought on the sonotubes.

For a teaser, the boxes will be 24x24x26 and ill hopefully get a build thread going this weekend to keep you all on pins and needles.
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well so here is the build thread then Im going to double up the sides and internally brace a decent amount. after displacement and bracing the cab should work out to a little under 7 cuft.

You guys are more than welcome to guess at whats about to go down but I aint answering until you see the finished product Needless to say, Im stoked Im finally getting something going here

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post #2 of 309 Old 02-10-2012, 02:04 PM
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Good luck...


What is your current or previous bass system anyway?
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Went from dual lilmikes f-20's with tempests. Now I have the two tempests in 15 cuft sonotubes tuned to around 10hz. Before all of the DIY stuff it was an nht 10 with a whopping 80 watts on the amp haha

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There they are!!!!!! Woot woot!
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F**k yes!

Now pack them back up and send them to me.

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F**k yes!

Now pack them back up and send them to me.

Haha, yea I just wanted to look at them for a second, whats your addy?

PSYCH!!!!!

Actually, the packaging was TOP NOTCH!!! These were double boxed with peanuts between the two boxes, and then mounted in a round MDF enclosure that RE custom made specifically for these drivers. it was a BIA to get two of the crews out of the caps of one of them but I was more than impressed to say the least. only thing that I didnt like is the driver could have fallen out of the recessed mounting hole in the packaging box if the whole thing was flipped over. regardless, they arrived in what seems to be so far perfect shape, even though the outer box didnt inspire confidence whatsoever. Pushing on the cone doesnt yield any scraping noises and really demonstrates how stiff the suspension is on these guys, I dont think a measly 2000 watts each that I have right now will be able to do much.


So anyways, Josh, ive got room for 8cf with a 24x24x30 inch enclosure assuming I will be giving these guys an fp14k to power them once I absorb some additional funds. think that sounds about right? that is before driver displacement and bracing, so real world it will be closer to 7.5 to 7 cuft.

Im going to work out the cutlist tonight and hopefully have the boxes done by tomorrow evening, let the PL cure overnight and give em a good run on sunday, but I may get antsy and play them tomorrow night, i will try to stop myself.

THESE THINGS ARE FREAKING HUGE!!!!!!!

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These things shouldnt have trouble cooling with the open coils like that.
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Little different seeing them in person eh? LOL. Ask the wife if she will carry one for you.

Yeah anywhere from 6-10 cubes is fine. They will probably almost take that FP14K at clipping in short bursts without running out of excursion depending on how big your box ends up. You don't want to give them too much of the full brunt for greatly extended periods of time though or you might get some black coils. Basically don't leave on dubstep with 40Hz drones for 6 hours at full war volume.

Xmech on those is 61mm inward where the bottom spider joint contacts the top plate extension. It takes a LOT of juice to get there. As long as you don't do that these will last for a long time to come. Mine are on K10's and PL9.0's before that, which are both similar 4 ohm power to the 14K and mine haven't had an issue yet.

Did you design the enclosures yet?
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Where do you get these and how much?
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A good reference photo. Thats me huggin these big ole dudes.

MK, I found a good deal on these. Not sure if I could find another one like I did, but they are what the new thread title says they are
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A good reference photo. Thats me huggin these big ole dudes.

Holy crap...those things are huge! Congrats on your purchase; seated and firmly strapped in for this one.
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A good reference photo. Thats me huggin these big ole dudes.

MK, I found a good deal on these. Not sure if I could find another one like I did, but they are what the new thread title says they are

Hopefully you didnt pay more than $779 which is the everyday price they go for at sonic electronix

You can make offers on ebay to sonic electronix or audio savings, could probably get a pair for $1500.

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Hopefully you didnt pay more than $779 which is the everyday price they go for at sonic electronix

You can make offers on ebay to sonic electronix or audio savings, could probably get a pair for $1500.

Haha. Nice call. Guess what I did then?!?!

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The displacement on these things is truly mind boggling with the 54mm xmax. Thats one way correct? I dont understand why more people arent buying these. The sensitivity they have at 20hz would damage most houses. Especially now the LG clones are so prevalent i would think it would be a no brainer... it doesnt require THAT big of a box. The only difficult part is getting a 110lb sub into a box.

In terms of numbers two Fi Q will do 13.4L combined, while a single XXX will do about 13L. I think overall these are a better built sub than the Fi Q, and i havent heard ricci say much about these complaining at xmax, while ricci reports of the "noise" Fi Q when getting near its xmax... The price is about the same depending on the options you get with the Fi Qs, and since i think overall theyre a better built sub this is the best bang for the buck out there.

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now if only re made 21 or 24" xxx's..... !!!!!!

Looks damn sweet though!!!! Congrats on the buy!!!!!!!!!

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Awesome Beast! You should be thumping in no time!
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Actually I wish they made XXX Pr's with that kind of throw. Those would be fun.

These definitely back up the Beastaudio screen name well.
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Im interested in these. I wonder how four 15's in dual opposed enclosures would do
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Sick, watching this one unfold!

 

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I'm jelly. Awesome 'beasts' these are.


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Actually I wish they made XXX Pr's with that kind of throw. Those would be fun.

These definitely back up the Beastaudio screen name well.

I'm surprised that they don't. That would be cool though and damn useful with all the popularity in ultra long throw drivers.

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Wood is cut. Bout to start assembling. I used oak for all the exterior panels and it chipped pretty bad due to a dull blade but I pressed on regardless. The chipping only happened on one side of the cut so those will all be interior. I'm going to round over the edges anyways so it will all go away.

I also had a panel of auruco so I used it to cut the internal bracing.
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So what do you guys think... Stain the oak to a dark tint or go for the old flat black?

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Dark red to make those subs stand out

 

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Jesus H. Christ, the baskets on those things look like the Romulan ship from Star Trek! Very, very cool. I wish you could somehow see that once they're mounted...

As for the stain, obviously it's personal opinion and will depend on your decor, but I've never been a huge fan of good wood getting painted black. I like a medium/light stain on oak that reflects the character of the tree's autumn foliage.
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Good call on the star trek. Striking similarities!! I like a good stain as well and that was the main reason I went with oak. I plan on screwing panels together quite liberally so I'll have to see how it all looks in the end (tonight) before I make my final decision. I do have wood filler so there's a decent chance it will look good enough to be able to stain.

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Stain would look pretty nice but obviously it's your decision.

UGGH!!! I'm hovering over a link to order two of these.

Must..... resist!

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Dont mean to be a hater but dont you have a lot of subs looking for homes (enclosures) scott??

maybe im mistaken though.

If you do buy them, try to get in contact with audio savings in new york and see if they can cut a deal if you order a pair, that way you dont pay tax in CA (sonic electronix charges tax).

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Haha. I was thinking the same thing. Scott, maintain focus on those uber mains first!!!!!

One down one to go.
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One done already, man, youre hustling

I seriously want pair of these just because excursion is a guilty pleasure of mine...

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