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Hey everyone
I need help from the enthousiast or audio master among you.

I'm going to order that tomorrow and i have one very important question :

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=849

which turns out to be

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=891

I now have to choose between these 3 Amp :

LT/1300 amp (this one is B-grade, ED told me its new but scratched since it was mounted on the show model, it's backorder atm)

Behringer EP2000

Dayton Audio Spa1000

Which one would you advice and why? Anyone had any problem with one of those? or ED sub in generals ??

Also, i think the LT/1300 and dayton are plate amp... while behringer ep2000 are external but i'm not sure.

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No reason not to spend the extra $50 for a EP4000. Pair that with a MiniDSP so you can easily shape your response.
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No reason not to spend the extra $50 for a EP4000. Pair that with a MiniDSP so you can easily shape your response.

thx for quick reply, i think i ahve to choose between the 3, ill try though :P
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No reason not to spend the extra $50 for a EP4000. Pair that with a MiniDSP so you can easily shape your response.

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thx for quick reply, i think i ahve to choose between the 3, ill try though :P

The 13.av2's can take 1200-1400watt rms per driver, you can find an EP4000 / inuke3000dsp used for decent prices (musicians friend), and bridge them for 3000watts. Headroom is always good.
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The 13.av2's can take 1200-1400watt rms per driver, you can find an EP4000 / inuke3000dsp used for decent prices (musicians friend), and bridge them for 3000watts. Headroom is always good.

Well, looks like i'll try that... but if i really really need to choose between the 3 i mentionned, i guess u advice the behringer?
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OK guys, so i'm going with the behringer 4000.

So how do i connect it to my A/V receiver for a single 1400 watt subwoofer??

Mostly its

AV receiver sub out
behinger Imput 1 in
Behringer Imput 1 ( red and black wire) using normal speaker wire to the Woofer? Or its not the same kind if wire???
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The 13.av2's can take 1200-1400watt rms per driver, you can find an EP4000 / inuke3000dsp used for decent prices (musicians friend), and bridge them for 3000watts. Headroom is always good.

No, they can't. You can smoke one of these drives with half of that power. Be careful.
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No, they can't. You can smoke one of these drives with half of that power. Be careful.

Thank you very much for your intervention, i'm totally newbie in this ( I'm mostly projector guys, kinda new to high end audio). So overall i just use the plain normal imput1 out ( red and black wire) and connect to the (red and black) imput of my subwoofer with normal speaker wire...

No bridge mode, no risk for my subwoofer right? Does sub only take the electricity it needs to run or the electricity actually going to the subwoofer is all driven by the amp? ( i mean if i raise output too much on the amp, my subwoofer can be damaged?)

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for what its worth...did you get any advise from alex at eD? He is the "man" when it comes to this type of decision making.

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for what its worth...did you get any advise from alex at eD? He is the "man" when it comes to this type of decision making.

yes he recommanded the keiga LT/1300 amp

But can't get over the fact it's not flawless for the price i pay :P
so ill go with the behringer:P thx though
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If you want a near perfect Keiga amp (the one the LT/1300 clones), send me a PM.

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yes he recommanded the keiga LT/1300 amp

But can't get over the fact it's not flawless for the price i pay :P
so ill go with the behringer:P thx though

FWIW..i have a LT/1300 and it kicks the crap out of my Crown XTI 2000 and before that my Buttkicker amp.

I have it powering a IXL 18" sub right now.

define flawless?

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LT1300s are quite nice when they work well. One of them has enough power to bottom out a pair of 13av.2s in sealed enclosure, and smoke the coils. oops. They also seem to have a little reliability issue though, as do most plate amps.
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I kept clipping and overheating my LT/1300.
Upgraded to an EP4000 and never looked back.

my 2 cents.
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Keiga / LT1300 would work well with a pair of 13av.2s, and the enclosure is designed for it to fit. However, the EP4000 is a far superior amp, though it does not have auto-on features and it has a loud fan(easily replaced with a quiet one).
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I you buy your own amp, will he lower the price on the kit? or does the kit not include an amp?
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I you buy your own amp, will he lower the price on the kit? or does the kit not include an amp?

I inquired awhile back about a kit without the amp (I have a spare Keiga KGND5100) and was told that I could buy the box by itself, or the box and drivers for less $ than the full kit. I don't know if they will still do this.
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How much less...? The LT1300 is $450 but I doubt they will lower it that much.
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How much less...? The LT1300 is $450 but I doubt they will lower it that much.

If my memory is correct, it was the cost of the two drivers and $100 for the flatpack box. This was right after they offered the initial kit, I don't know if they would still offer this kind of deal.
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