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So after using the JBL VRX cabinets on Friday night I decided it was time I make my own. The mid bazookas and 2" exit monster horn was fun for a while, but now it is time for some real highs. They need to run from 300-20k, so I sat down last night and designed a dual 10 line array cabinet featuring the following drivers. The pair of 10s flank the pair of waveguides:

2x FaitalPRO 10FE200

http://www.faitalpro.com/products/schede/fes.php?id=401040100



2xFaitalPRO WG101

http://www.faitalpro.com/products/schede/hrn.php?id=903010200


2x FaitalPRO HF100

http://www.faitalpro.com/products/schede/cd.php?id=502010250



I had a bunch of lumber left over from the NewSub build, so I used that for construction. I had to order the waveguides and HF units, they will arrive Friday. I have one pair of 10FE200, I'll need a few more pairs if this experiment goes well. On to the pics...




Materials cut up:





First step of assembly:






Baffle holes cut:





Backs on:





Off to home for some finishing, first a flush trim all teh way around:




Then roundovers to make them look nice and pretty:





Time to redesign the kickbins, they are the longest running part of this whole system:


 

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Reserved for graphs laterrrrrrr

 

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Heh. The pictures make them looks pretty large up until that last shot. biggrin.gif

Agh! Will Friday get here sooner already! Gosh! As always... looking forward to what your work nets. smile.gif

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HF components showed up today, at 615pm. UPS was a bit late. Didn't get as far as I wanted, but there is tomorrow before the show on Sunday.

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Here is the new cab compared to the old mid bazookas:



Mids set in:



HF test fit, kinda:



First step was a 3" holesaw to accommodate the pair of speakons, and a 7/8 hole because I am using a flush trim bit instead of a plunge pit to make a cutout large enough in the back for the HF horn assembly to sneak through:



I then set up a fence to stop the router from going too close to the hole:



Hole cut:



Roundover of course:



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Horns in place:




Tomorrow I will assemble and wire them, measure the FR with some auralex inside, and some stuffing and set up EQ. I plan to take a sweep of the whole rig once I EQ the individual parts. I'll try and make up a thread of that process. That will be some data to sift through.

 

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Lurking....any splay angle in those boxes, or meant for little vert dispersion?

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These are the straight version. I'll most likely end up with 4 of these per side for minimal vertical dispersion in clubs. I'll probably make up a few angled ones in case of a j array situation. If these prototypes measure favorably, I'll make any tweaks to the design and replicate final versions. I only had drawings of the HF parts so I can be more precise now that I have the lenses. This pair might get a top hat and become monitors with some stock crossovers.

 

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Wicked. smile.gif

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+/- 1db from 300-12k. More of the story coming smile.gif




 

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Couple of pics in use. The first show I had to use one HF unit in each, but it worked out fine.





Here is the completed pair and the rest of the stack at a recent show. They sound very tasty:


 

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As always, awesome stuff, J. smile.gif

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How many more cabs will make the line complete?

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Stupid question but I assume they are actively crossed? Excellent job Wi!
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Actively crossed, and biamped.

I think I'm going to do some with a single HF and a pair of 5s, and do like 4 per side. I have to do some maths yet.

 

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Sound better with one HF section? I love the look of these. I'm sure it would cost a ton but I'd love to see a bunch stacked like 6-9' tall. biggrin.gif

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Sound better with one HF section?

Sounds and measures pretty much the same 1 vs 2, just better vertical pattern control with both.


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I'm sure it would cost a ton but I'd love to see a bunch stacked like 6-9' tall. biggrin.gif

Not as much as you would think. These are entry level drivers, and surprisingly inexpensive.

 

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Ah. I figure a version with two HF units would be more sensitive too with more overall SPL capability. I'm sure you have enough already though. tongue.gif

Didn't think those would be on the cheaper side. Plus, you've been getting a lot of higher end bass drivers lately. Just figure the mid/HF cabs were just as expensive.

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Highs are easy and cheap, bass is expensive lol


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