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post #271 of 1010 Old 11-12-2012, 09:49 AM
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Popa - Would you be down for a mini-GTG over sometime thanksgiving or Christmas weeks? We could even do 2 LMS, 2 dual opposed daytons, and 2 empires? Maybe grab a couple submersives from ironmike as well? Battle of the sealed shootout. biggrin.gif
Looking forward to the Mammoth makeover too. biggrin.gif

Man, if it was all about me I would say let's do it Thanksgiving and Christmas weekend... smile.gif

Realistically, I don't think that would pass congressional approval. If I was to drop everything right now and give 100% attention to the wife for the next month I might be able to do something the week before Christmas.

But everything I would want to get done before the get together would take up time and money. I still need to buy a miniDSP, get the Clone fixed (could take WEEKS), buy more Carbon fiber, strip the mammoths down and refinish them. Working with resin is a chore bro... On top of that, if we wanted to play with the SI's they first need to exist and I would still have to build a box for them.

At a mininum I could leave the boxes as-is and would just need to get the Clone fixed. If we could spend the time getting the settings right using your miniDSP, then I'd be satisfied. It would be cool having only 3-4 contenders so we could approach testing from several different angles/combinations (etc...). Take our time with it, ya know.

You might have a few Clone's yourself by then and if'f that's the case all I would have to do is load up the LMS and head out your way...Hummmm, I might be running out of excuses.

 

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My recommendation for the wife would be to pony up for some real nice gifts this season - that should give you some bargaining power. biggrin.gif

Let's look at the other issues:

Minidsp - can use mine for sure
Carbon fiber? That doesn't add any SPL or extend frequency response to my knowledge. biggrin.gif Throw some duratex on those things and call it a day. NEXT
Clone - Definitely get yours fixed, and I'll see what I can do about adding to my amp collection as a 'backup.' At minimum I'm I'd like to upgrade my 20A dedicated sub amp line to 30A in preparation for whatever comes next.

To give us some extra time to tie up some loose ends, maybe let's shoot for the Saturday after Christmas, the 29th? I think 3-4 solid setups would be perfect and would give us plenty of time for setup, EQ, measurements, and beer drinking of course. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif You guys are of course more than welcome to stay over so no additional costs would be incurred. tongue.gif
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My recommendation for the wife would be to pony up for some real nice gifts this season - that should give you some bargaining power. biggrin.gif
Let's look at the other issues:
Minidsp - can use mine for sure
Carbon fiber? That doesn't add any SPL or extend frequency response to my knowledge. biggrin.gif Throw some duratex on those things and call it a day. NEXT
Clone - Definitely get yours fixed, and I'll see what I can do about adding to my amp collection as a 'backup.' At minimum I'm I'd like to upgrade my 20A dedicated sub amp line to 30A in preparation for whatever comes next.
To give us some extra time to tie up some loose ends, maybe let's shoot for the Saturday after Christmas, the 29th? I think 3-4 solid setups would be perfect and would give us plenty of time for setup, EQ, measurements, and beer drinking of course. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif You guys are of course more than welcome to stay over so no additional costs would be incurred. tongue.gif

Man, all valid arguments except for the carbon fiber comment. The extra ridigity should give me a .5db boost above 50Hz, which as it turns out, means nothing to me!

I'm really doing it more for the experience factor, ya know. If I could just get to a point where I could make my hobby self-sustaining, I would be set!

I'll hit you up tomorrow to see if we can work something out brotha. Thanks for the generous offer.

 

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Man! So jealous of all these sub GTG's.

I need to get with MJ and set something up!
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Man! So jealous of all these sub GTG's.
I need to get with MJ and set something up!

I was JUST discussing that with him!!! Haha. I am just a poke too far out for most of the East Coast ones happening north of me...

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Jim, my man... Yeah, I saw a few comments about me being a bit over eager with the remote among other things...haha. I let testosterone get in the way of me properly representing the DIY/LMS crowd, so I feel the need for a bit of redemption myself.

Sounds like a plan to me. So we meet at Andrews again? I'm sure his wife won't mind having her house overrun by a horde of HT geeks again... biggrin.gif

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Man! So jealous of all these sub GTG's.
I need to get with MJ and set something up!

You just want to have a GTG because you know your gonna win tongue.gifwink.gif I am thinking sometime around February might be good so we can have a nice selection of subs to destroy my home, I mean have fun biggrin.gif

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You just want to have a GTG because you know your gonna win tongue.gifwink.gif I am thinking sometime around February might be good so we can have a nice selection of subs to destroy my home, I mean have fun biggrin.gif
Stop being modest mr. 20 subs! biggrin.gif

Actually I'm hoping we can run ALL the subs at once at reference level and see how that goes. cool.gif
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Stop being modest mr. 20 subs! biggrin.gif
Actually I'm hoping we can run ALL the subs at once at reference level and see how that goes. cool.gif

MJ: 20 subs + TBD amount of XXX
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Reference down to what, 2Hz maybe?

Sounds like a party I would not want to miss!!! MJ, if you guys are serious and you are looking to gauge more interest, maybe you should make your own thread. Gorilla started his thread like 3 months prior to hosting which allowed Jeff and Mark to add it to their schedules!

With enough advance maybe the JTR van could grace the GTG loaded down with 4 Orbit Shifters. In that case you guys should probably coordinate with the city to have your street cordoned off with medics standing by.

I have callused eardrums and even I just cringed at the thoight...lol

People like us inevitably turn these innocent "scientific" gatherings into all out testosterone driven SPL fests.

 

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Man, all valid arguments except for the carbon fiber comment. The extra ridigity should give me a .5db boost above 50Hz, which as it turns out, means nothing to me!
I'm really doing it more for the experience factor, ya know. If I could just get to a point where I could make my hobby self-sustaining, I would be set!
I'll hit you up tomorrow to see if we can work something out brotha. Thanks for the generous offer.

It's cool man, just busting your chops on the CF. biggrin.gif It actually does look like a neat project. Hit me up sometime this week and let me know what you can work. tongue.gif
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Man! So jealous of all these sub GTG's.
I need to get with MJ and set something up!

Edogg - You would be right at home at one of our GTG's. Take a flight out?? Plenty of notice until end of December. biggrin.gif
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I was JUST discussing that with him!!! Haha. I am just a poke too far out for most of the East Coast ones happening north of me...

Man, you're only in NC - easy day trip, right? LOL.

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Sounds like a plan to me. So we meet at Andrews again? I'm sure his wife won't mind having her house overrun by a horde of HT geeks again... biggrin.gif

Jim - you down for end of December? Would like to keep a smaller agenda so we can give each sub/pair it's due diligence.

Let me throw the idea out to the wife this week and see what i can swing. biggrin.gif
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Let me throw the idea out to the wife this week and see what i can swing. biggrin.gif

I can tell you right now that 29 Dec is a no-go for me. I'm hosting the UFC fight that weekend. Been planning it for a few months now so no backing down.

 

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Jim - you down for end of December? Would like to keep a smaller agenda so we can give each sub/pair it's due diligence. Let me throw the idea out to the wife this week and see what i can swing. biggrin.gif

Around the holidays would be a tough one for me. There's always a lot of things to do, making free time a bit scarce.

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Stop being modest mr. 20 subs! biggrin.gif
Actually I'm hoping we can run ALL the subs at once at reference level and see how that goes. cool.gif

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Reference down to what, 2Hz maybe?
Sounds like a party I would not want to miss!!! MJ, if you guys are serious and you are looking to gauge more interest, maybe you should make your own thread. Gorilla started his thread like 3 months prior to hosting which allowed Jeff and Mark to add it to their schedules!
With enough advance maybe the JTR van could grace the GTG loaded down with 4 Orbit Shifters. In that case you guys should probably coordinate with the city to have your street cordoned off with medics standing by.
I have callused eardrums and even I just cringed at the thoight...lol
People like us inevitably turn these innocent "scientific" gatherings into all out testosterone driven SPL fests.

Your both trouble makers, that's all I gotta say biggrin.gif

I wish I could make plans that far in advance but my schedule is a moving target, I need a big shotgun to hit it.

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Let's get back to some quad 18's, eh? tongue.gif

LOL, indeed. First enclosure is assembled minus the outer baffles. I was hoping to get the second enclosure bottom/sides/bracing glued last night, but ran out of time. Tonight or tomorrow night the outer baffes will be glued and second enclosure started. Stay tuned! Hoping to get some type of listening impression on an unpainted box this weekend. tongue.gif


I'm thinking the next batch of enclosures will be singles due to flexibility in placing around the room. I've spec'd out (4) 21x21x20 enclosures in cutlist, but will wait to see how the first couple prototypes sound first. biggrin.gif
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OK - first enclosure is ready for finish preparation. I need to hit the top and side of the back with the flush trim bit this evening to get it cleaned up, then roundovers on the outside baffes, then putty, sand, primer, and paint.

Lesson learned last night - Lining up, gluing, and clamping BOTH outside baffles at the same time was a frustrating task. I wound up just using a couple screws to hold one of them in place while I fussed with the other, but it was still a challenge to get it in the exact position I wanted. I think on the next enclosure I'll just do them one at a time.

I have some pictures I've been attempting to upload but experiencing some difficulties with my image host. More to come.

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Here we go:

Woofer dropped in to check fitment
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Box - I had to add a few more clamps, but here you can see the box a bit better. For some reason even after I rotate this picture, it's not saving my changes. frown.gif
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Thank you sir. Hoping to start assembly of #2 this evening.
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agreed, looks great - looking forward to the finished products and your impressions vs the other subs you have had in your room.
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Nice work Gorrila!

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Thanks guys!! Box #1 has had some filling, scraping, and basic sanding done. Box #2 is underway also. biggrin.gif

Things always go easier/better the second time around. Makes me want to do the first box over again, heh.


Small roundover / Holes filled / light sand on first box


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Box #2!

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Box#1 received final roundovers and will get sanding/primer tomorrow with any luck.

Box#2 had the braces and top glued/clamped last night and is now curing. Woot! Listening impressions in a few short days??
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Dayton RS18 results are public at the DB. Cheers for the weekend! Spread the word. biggrin.gif
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Suhhhweeeeeet! Thanks, Josh! smile.gif

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once again nice work and write up josh.

looks like the guys got the shorting rings right.

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<---- Like a kid on Christmas! Once again, you're the man. Can't wait to try out my quads soon. biggrin.gif Midrange is going to be awesome with these!
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Looks like two of these guys in a dual opposed cab would outgun a single UXL-18 for the same price. These are going to go quick. Are these a deal at $350 each when PE raises the prices to keep up with the demand?
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Thanks for the writeup. Any plans to do the Stereo Integrity driver in the near future?
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