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post #841 of 861 Old 12-23-2015, 12:09 PM
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Just in case you think I'm making this all up. Picture or it never happened!

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Um, if we're talking USG then since when do we have ministries? And if we're not talking USG, they would've responded to your enquiry...

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Um, if we're talking USG then since when do we have ministries? And if we're not talking USG, they would've responded to your enquiry...
Investigations and Enforcement Branch
Ministry of the Environment

It's Canadian.

http://www.infogo.gov.on.ca/infogo/o...=799&locale=en
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Just your typical Mission Impossible, or Bourne Identiity type movie lol...
The first document is signed by a judge, rejecting a Freedom of Information request based on various applicable laws and reasonings.
and the second document is a blurb of a summary recommendation for the executive branch of government.
Both are declassified docs.

Both are talking about the government facility where I worked.

Do you believe it now?



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Investigations and Enforcement Branch, Ministry of the Environment
Nope, their email addresses are different...

Environment Canada emails are: @ ec.gc.ca
http://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang...545-1#national

Immigration Canada emails are: @ cic.gc.ca
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...ada/ottawa.asp

Canadian Intelligence Service emails are: @ csis-scrs.gc.ca
https://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/index-en.php

Canadian Police emails are: @ rcmp-grc.gc.ca
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cont/index-eng.htm

I didn't work for any of these...

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Yeah, I can google Canadian government agencies on my own.
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The things I was helping keep secure for the government had/have interests to American citizens, Canadian citizens, British citizens, and Australian citizens.
Other than a language translator to allow communications in English there was no "technical" limits or restrictions applied based on the source country that owned or regulated XYZ or that had an interest or relationship with us (at least that I knew of... )

From the perspective of the job I had and the tasks I performed, it was open to world-wide interests (with only a few restrictions to be found).

In fact, we were obligated by law to serve all parties involved without prejudice, otherwise it would be considered a violation of human rights and the governing oversight laws.
Pending the successfully completion of a screening process with lawful approvals and consent that is... (not just anyone / anytime would be allowed to interact with us.)

That said, I would imagine that the people who failed that screening process would be arrested for attempted identity fraud (if/when applicable), pretty rare, but never say never.

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You better hope you get to walk away! lol
I have some absolutely fantastic news!
The judge sided against the government. They must now pay all court costs, and they owe me upwards of six figures in addition to that.
The bad news is that the court battle might go on for up to another 1.5 years before I see any money. The war is not over just yet.

With this money I "might" just be able to build the dream home that I've always wanted (or somewhat-close to it).
Theater 2.0 will likely be a GO.

Theater 1.0 has a number of compromises in it, the biggest issue is sound-proofing.
Concrete and underground just wasn't in the budget back in 2012.
With 1.0 I did the best I could with the time/money/space I had back then.

To make matters worse I've more than doubled my bass SPL in just the past 3 years.
Wood and drywall can only contain so much bass! (I knew that before I even started the design of 1.0, no real surprise.)

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So a basement would be better than say a room decoupled, connected by a hallway, from the rest of the house? Where I am now I rent. The house has a crawl space under the house. I love feeling the floor shake.

You 'could' still do concrete walls. You could have a crawl space, or maybe a partial basement under (to run wiring) and you'd get the tactical shake in the floor.

Edit: Or you move so far out in the country that no one will hear you.
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Yep. My ultimate plan as well.
Completely underground, likely under a layer of dirt. Could be used as a fallout shelter, but the theater is more important.
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The problem is getting high speed internet to the middle of nowhere. Like fiber... it just ain't happening!
So I don't think going further out of town is an option...

If you go underground you can be near/in a city or next to others, and it's no problem (except cost!)
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The problem is getting high speed internet to the middle of nowhere. Like fiber... it just ain't happening!
So I don't think going further out of town is an option...

If you go underground you can be near/in a city or next to others, and it's no problem (except cost!)
Thinking outside the basement. hehe
Would it be worth digging it say an extra foot or two and essentially raise the floor, that 1-2ft, so you're not on concrete?

Ooohhh, that could be like one big box to hold horn subs. LOL
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The problem is getting high speed internet to the middle of nowhere. Like fiber... it just ain't happening!

So I don't think going further out of town is an option...



If you go underground you can be near/in a city or next to others, and it's no problem (except cost!)

With enough $ you can have practically anything, anywhere, anytime
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Thinking outside the basement. hehe
Would it be worth digging it say an extra foot or two and essentially raise the floor, that 1-2ft, so you're not on concrete?

Ooohhh, that could be like one big box to hold horn subs. LOL
I was thinking of an 11ft ceiling, which leaves a lot of room for things like riser IB's and raised wood flooring to get my tactile vibs back.
Power, audio and data at the seats for power recline, buttshakers, phone charging and control.

I'm gonna need to build a DIY door, as even dual exterior solid-core "normal" doors that I have now just aren't gonna cut it AT ALL!
The door is gonna be the harder part of the whole thing IMO.

I'd like all the speakers to be in the walls for sure.
Possibly a huge wall-to-wall detachable AT screen.

I don't want the popcorn maker in the room anymore, and the whole "kitchen/bar in the back" idea needs to go with it! That was a compromise.
I'd like to have that space for rear subs!!!

Other than that, I think I basically nailed the general design the first time.
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That's pretty much how I would do my dream HT.
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...I'm gonna need to build a DIY door, as even dual exterior solid-core "normal" doors that I have now just aren't gonna cut it AT ALL!
The door is gonna be the harder part of the whole thing IMO.

If you budget allows, get a real exterior door.

The door in my room is the only hole, but there is zero sound heard upstairs due to the all weather sealing+threshold, weight and thickness of the door. More expensive than a DIY option no doubt, but you won't get a DIY option to look as nice. Your only true option to contain the bass is to build a concrete bunker. The over all cost may not be as high as you may think after you factor in the costs of all the soundproofing techniques/materials you WON'T have to buy/install. Just something to consider....




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I saw the Samsung UBD-K8500 in-action in-person the other day.

Now keep in mind I've had a 40" 4K LED computer screen for over a year now and a 65" 4K screen in my living room for 8 months now, so maybe I am already spoiled and now pixel-blind to 4K already.
But I just couldn't see any difference between 1080P and 4K on regular 50-70inch screens at any reasonable distance, like say: 9-15ft away.

I just don't see the point of owning this player and UHD movies unless you have at least a 120inch 4K projector.

and I'm not blind either, I have like 40/40 vision (20/20 or beyond), with nearly flawless color vision too.
http://www.zeiss.com/vision-care/en_...ing-check.html


My head had to be 2-4ft from the screen in order to see the 4K pixels.
At 6ft the pixels, of even 1080P, were unnoticeable.
Few people have good eye sight, and almost nobody sits that close to their screen.
So I don't see a market for this product for the non-projector crowd.

Unless you happen to have a 8K 110" OLED prototype TV (for $100,000) from LG or Sony etc etc.

4K just seems like total overkill unless you are sitting at the screen at computer-desktop distances.

I'll have to wait for more HDR tv's and movies to come out before they can convince me to put this pixel generator in the living room.

I could maybe see 4K projector owners (or soon to be's) wanting this product desperately though...

Now that I've seen it in action, I think this technology is gonna be a tough sell for hollywood to push onto people, at least until the price drops to mainstream Walmart bargin bin levels.
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I wouldn't get into UHD Blu-rays for the 4K video, honestly. I'd get them exclusively for immersive audio.

Plus, 2/3's of the current releases are based off 2K DI's anyway so what's the point?
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I wouldn't get into UHD Blu-rays for the 4K video, honestly. I'd get them exclusively for immersive audio.
Agreed. If we could get 1080p content with the immersive audio that would be usable for most of us.

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4K just seems like total overkill unless you are sitting at the screen at computer-desktop distances.
Besides what Scott said about immersive audio, you are also overlooking that 4k 4:2:0 8-bit can be displayed as 1080p 4:4:4 10-bit. Current Blu-rays are 4:2:0, which means there are only half the vertical and half the horizontal chroma information vs the luma information. There can be much better color detail with 4K. HDR should also be a nice improvement in image quality.

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