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post #1 of 46 Old 12-02-2012, 02:16 PM - Thread Starter
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The behringerEP4000 is back in stock at WALMART.COM

$275.00 + Local Tax

Free pickup at your local Walmart

Shipping $4.97

Warranty 3yrs $28.00
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nice.
I ordered it when it was up last week. made it from site to store in 2 days
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Sweet, quite the bargain.

Already have two of them, but that's a deal.

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Yup. Jumped on one, should probably order another. You can never have too many amps laying around, lol.

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Dang I just got my EPX4000 for $360

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Just went out of stock again. mad.gif

Too many of you snapped up the latest supply.
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How often they come in stock?

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How often they come in stock?

It usually is every other week.

Keep your toes and fingers crossed, this is a great price. smile.gif
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sweet, done.

so what is the cheapest best way to handle frequency control on this guy for sub duties?
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sweet, done.
so what is the cheapest best way to handle frequency control on this guy for sub duties?

mini dsp 2x4 unbalanced: $125 or balanced $145
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mini dsp 2x4 unbalanced: $125 or balanced $145

get the balanced

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get the balanced

X2. The majority of pro amps are going to expect a >1 V output than the unbalanced provides to produce full rated power. The balanced version can output 2V RMS to supply the needs of most pro amplifiers.
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X2. The majority of pro amps are going to expect a >1 V output that the unbalanced provides to produce full rated power. The balanced version can output 2V RMS to supply the needs of most pro amplifiers.

i think you meant "The majority of pro amps are going to expect a >1 V output than the unbalanced provides to produce full rated power." ?

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thats why you want the BALANCED version if using a pro amp. it has a higher input signal, correct? i know you use pro amps and im looking at getting a minidsp and a pro amp so im just making sure

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i think you meant "The majority of pro amps are going to expect a >1 V output than the unbalanced provides to produce full rated power." ?

Yes, corrected. My apologies.

Most pro amps will need 1.7ish volts to product full output. The unbalanced version will not do that without a booster / cleanbox, etc.
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Yes, corrected. My apologies.
Most pro amps will need 1.7ish volts to product full output. The unbalanced version will not do that without a booster / cleanbox, etc.

so, in an attempt to stay on topic here, does the balanced dsp's higher output signal make up for the commercial avr sub output's lower signal making for a good match with the ep4000?

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so, in an attempt to stay on topic here, does the balanced dsp's higher output signal make up for the commercial avr sub output's lower signal making for a good match with the ep4000?
Yes it can give you some additional gain, but it's far from an established fact that all commercial AVRs have low output signals.

For example, my Pioneer Elite SC-05 at reference (0dB) with the SW channel trim at 0dB can clip the input on a balanced MiniDSP (using the 2V input jumper setting).
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Yes it can give you some additional gain, but it's far from an established fact that all commercial AVRs have low output signals.
For example, my Pioneer Elite SC-05 at reference (0dB) with the SW channel trim at 0dB can clip the input on a balanced MiniDSP (using the 2V input jumper setting).

ok, so its kind of a non issue in this case then?

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ok, so its kind of a non issue in this case then?

The issue becomes when you combine a normally capable output receiver with a balanced minidsp that will output 0.9V at maximum output.

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They are back in stock at Wally World right now. Just snagged another one. smile.gif

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The issue becomes when you combine a normally capable output receiver with a balanced minidsp that will output 0.9V at maximum output.
http://www.minidsp.com/images/documents/Product%20Brief-MiniDSP.pdf
confused.gif The balanced model outputs 2V, not .9V. I assume you meant the unbalanced model which is limited to .9Vrms output?
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confused.gif The balanced model outputs 2V, not .9V. I assume you meant the unbalanced model which is limited to .9Vrms output?

I suck at typing today. mad.gif Yes, the unbalanced is limited to 0.9V.
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Hmm.. I have iNuke3000DSP; and I was thinking seriously in selling it for $350. Brand New. Would you think is worthy replacing the iNuke 3000 DSP with the EP4000? I was looking for oAudio 500W; but are not on stock anymore....

I had an iNuke 3000 DSP and I have no idea why on my DIY 15" Sealed sounds much better with a 250W Bash Amp than with the iNuke 3000DSP!!!!!... So; I will buy an Yung 300W no boost version and use it instead of the iNuke3000DSP. I have another DIY 15" in which I can use the 250W BASH.....
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Hmm.. I have iNuke3000DSP; and I was thinking seriously in selling it for $350. Brand New. Would you think is worthy replacing the iNuke 3000 DSP with the EP4000? I was looking for oAudio 500W; but are not on stock anymore....
I had an iNuke 3000 DSP and I have no idea why on my DIY 15" Sealed sounds much better with a 250W Bash Amp than with the iNuke 3000DSP!!!!!... So; I will buy an Yung 300W no boost version and use it instead of the iNuke3000DSP. I have another DIY 15" in which I can use the 250W BASH.....

Did you calibrate everything after the switch? Input/output voltage might have changed, changing output between the 2.

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I used the Behringer Software to EQ the sub; I put the HPF; setup it to 4ohms, cabling and wiring as stated on manuals; etc... I performed various config files and no matter what; with the plates sounds better. How do I verify the Input/Output voltage?
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I used the Behringer Software to EQ the sub; I put the HPF; setup it to 4ohms, cabling and wiring as stated on manuals; etc... I performed various config files and no matter what; with the plates sounds better. How do I verify the Input/Output voltage?

You can test the output voltage coming out of your receivers LFE jack. Some pro amps require more voltage to reach full potential. It's possible to have two different amps running at a lot different efficiency based on the output voltage.

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Whoever is listing these should eventually catch on they have to be listing them wrong rolleyes.gif
But until then and in shoppers frenzy of holiday sales it may take them awhile to correct. I don't even need any, but bought a few myself just in case. Back in the day the ep4000 was 300 bucks at PE.


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btw my current rig uses 2 of these amps both running bridge mode into two DTS-10s. Proven performers.

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Can't beat $5 shipping for a 47 pound amp.

Exactly. I paid more shipping on the fan upgrade I just ordered for it. cool.gif

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