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post #721 of 786 Old 12-13-2013, 06:35 AM
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Well it definitely sparked my interest. And as long as it doesn't cost $1000 I might even be able to make something happen. wink.gif

It could cost that much or close. It is a 21" driver after all with nice specs. We shall see though.

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Db.com says 2k...
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That's crazy expensive!

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That one driver being talked about is REAL painful on the wallet. Like a tax audit or a divorce. Useful excursion limit is around 20-25mm one way. The driver, Zod Audio, the amplifier and the PaleHorn are all forged from solid unobtanium unfortunately with certain key components cast in unaffordium on top of that.

You guys remember the first rule of Fight Club? That pretty much applies to all of that stuff until I hear different...

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I think I like v1 due to the ease of getting the driver in and out. Not that it has to be done often, but you would have to remove the magnet to get it in there without scuffing up the surround.

There are dual side hatches. The magnet does not have to be removed. In fact there is room for an even bigger deeper driver. The hatch is actually 15.5" wide. Shouldn't be that bad.

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My thoughts exactly.


After feeling the TC Sounds 18" VMP radiators, which I think use the same basket, cone, dual spiders, and surround as the 5400, you couldn't get the cone to move in a non-linear fashion no matter which way you pulled/pushed/twisted on the bolt for the washers. It was shocking how the only movement was perfectly linear. If that's the case, I don't see the way the driver is mounted in V2 ever being a problem, but I know some will say otherwise.

The VMP uses a heavier cone, heavier stiffer surround material, different stiffer spider, etc...Just saying.I don't know how big of an issue sag would be either, but while I'm attempting to improve things it can't hurt right?
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That one driver being talked about is REAL painful on the wallet. Like a tax audit or a divorce. Useful excursion limit is around 20-25mm one way. The driver, Zod Audio, the amplifier and the PaleHorn are all forged from solid unobtanium unfortunately with certain key components cast in unaffordium on top of that.

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The Zod reminds me a lot of the B&C IPAL 21. The Zod does have a lot more motor though.
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the ipal 21" driver comes in at bl^2/re of 521 from my notes.

it is available to oem companies only.

this is public information and unrelated to fight club rule #1.

b&c measures resistance after intensive sine wave testing...current spec for re is 1 ohm, i believe it was measured as 0.7 ohm in the preliminary document that may not have included the "warm up".
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Hey Scott :-)

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That's crazy expensive!

yes and no. If you pay 2000 x 2 and 600 for wood then you have 100.00 for screws etc then you have 4700 for 2 bad ass subs. I had that in 2 jl audio fathom f113 and they wouldn't compare to this.
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DANG! All I got is this...

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can this be built using a different driver? Im just saying if the named driver here is not available can you use a lms ultra?
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can this be built using a different driver? Im just saying if the named driver here is not available can you use a lms ultra?

you can use a uxl-18
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DANG! All I got is this...

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can this be built using a different driver? Im just saying if the named driver here is not available can you use a lms ultra?

See if you can score one of the UXLs from the group buy that someone may not need/want.

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See if you can score one of the UXLs from the group buy that someone may not need/want.

Think he is asking about the Palehorn and if you can use another driver. Guessing the answer is no.
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"can this be built using a different driver? Im just saying if the named driver here is not available can you use a lms ultra?"

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ok, I have a disease... I have 2 marty subs right now, and they are solid... my only problem is this... I haven't built something for too long and I want to go nuts.... am thinking of just adding 2 more marty subs, but also wondering what a Gjallahorn will do in my room... my main room is 22x12 and it opens up into a kitchen, another 8x22 room and the back hallway (it's a southwest ranch style home so everything is open floor plans with no doors for those areas... since the Gjallahorn does great for open spaces where room gain is minimal I was wondering if one of those would do the trick.... or maybe a second one biggrin.gif

since I haven't read EVERY post... can you power one off of an Inuke 6000 or IPR2 7500 channel? or would I need an LG clone...
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worm...would the Gjallerhorn mix okay with the 2 Martys? I did not know if you were planning on running all at same time.
Also, would your mains do okay crossing at 60-70 to match with the FR of the Gjallerhorn?
Also...I believe you don't need a lot of power for a driver in the Gjallerhorn...you should be able to rock it with one channel of either.
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worm...would the Gjallerhorn mix okay with the 2 Martys? I did not know if you were planning on running all at same time.
Also, would your mains do okay crossing at 60-70 to match with the FR of the Gjallerhorn?
Also...I believe you don't need a lot of power for a driver in the Gjallerhorn...you should be able to rock it with one channel of either.

I would replace the martys... use them as coffee tables in my beddroom setup biggrin.gif

yeah, I have the Cheap thrills SEOS and those go down to 65 hz easy peasy
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I run one of my G-horns off 1 channel of the 7500 and it does an awesome job!! With a minidsp, you could get the martys to play with the G-horns fairly easily. If I can do it with sealed and an IB, you can with ported and the G-horn.

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It's only really a matter of setting your delays properly. And hoping they aren't out of phase too :-p
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A single channel of a 7500 is more than adequate.
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is the palehorn a new design in the making? im gaining more and more respect for Mr. Ricci. genius!!!

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is the palehorn a new design in the making? im gaining more and more respect for Mr. Ricci. genius!!!

That is a new design, likely with a 25hz tune and designed for high sensitivity 21" pro-style drivers.
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sounds like this one is more suited for PA's... live sound?

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sounds like this one is more suited for PA's... live sound?

Yes, but so was the Othorn, and I wouldn't trade those for anything for 25-150hz sub duty.
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Yes, but so was the Othorn, and I wouldn't trade those for anything for 25-150hz sub duty.

i just wish the drivers for these Ricci designs weren't so expensive!  imagine death metal never sounded any better through an Othorn. and... the viking names is just icing on the cake. BRUTAL!

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i just wish the drivers for these Ricci designs weren't so expensive!  imagine death metal never sounded any better through an Othorn. and... the viking names is just icing on the cake. BRUTAL!

Drums kicks are so powerful they're almost painful. Your eyes squint with each kick even though you know it's coming, and your vision distorts.
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Drums kicks are so powerful they're almost painful. Your eyes squint with each kick even though you know it's coming, and your vision distorts.

wow. this i must build. i imagine an othorn wouldnt sound to good with some LS9 line-arrays. with delays and what not. ive always wanted a sub that could produce life-like kick-drum with great authority. is the palehorn designed to be louder or play a little lower?

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wow. this i must build. i imagine an othorn wouldnt sound to good with some LS9 line-arrays. with delays and what not. ive always wanted a sub that could produce life-like kick-drum with great authority. is the palehorn designed to be louder or play a little lower?

Both...but good luck getting your hands on that ZOD mystery driver!
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