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Is there anything on the consumer line that even comes close to the 1500+ watts I need to power my sub that wont require a small personal loan to be taken out?

Do I have to go pro?
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The EP4000 is $275 at Walmart.com. You're not going to find ANYTHING close to that when it comes to power and price.

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The EP4000 is $275 at Walmart.com. You're not going to find ANYTHING close to that when it comes to power and price.

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there are several stores that have that pricing if walmart goes out of stock.

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Amazon also has the EP4000 for $275 but that includes free shipping and no sales tax.
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the closest thing that i can think of that is a non pro amp is the dayton:

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-811

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What do you consider a small personal loan is worth?

If you want to go a step higher than an EP, the MA-5050 is a sure bet.
http://www.amazon.com/Marathon-MA-5050-PRO-Series-Amplifier/dp/B000V0HVE2
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I think I'm going with the Crown XTi 2002.
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Emotiva, would be a "hifi" style amp that is afordable, and adept at sub duty.

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I have an XTI2000 and it works fine for me first as a sub-amp and now driving my midwoofers. I'm sure you will love the DSP and lack of fan noise until driven hard. However, at the price they are asking for the XTI2002, you can do better with Behringer or Peavey IPR3000 + MiniDSP.
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I've heard Behringer amps run loud and require fan mods. Yes?
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Yamaha amps are outstanding, and have next to no fan noise issues.

I'd not reccomend fan modding, ...relocation of the amp, or building a hush box, ... yes.

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The XTi-2002 is my sub amp and it's a champion at that power level. The fan only goes on when needed and shuts off promptly when it isn't. If you're in a bass passage loud enough that it triggers the fan, there's no way you'll ever hear it - so on the whole the XTi-2002 operates silently with the occasional, brief intrusion of a fan that's not too loud.

As for the Behringer fans - they are 12 volt, 80mm fans which means swapping them is as easy as it gets - it takes two minutes and yields a perfect result. It's not merely recommended... it's mandatory if you get an iNuke... and as a bonus you can actually get a fan that has MORE airflow and is quieter at the same time.

That said, I returned my iNuke 6000DSP and traded it for the XTi-2002. Sure I lost 3db of potential power, but I gained a much more bullet-proof amplifier. In brief, informal A/B testing XTi-2002 matched but didn't beat a Behringer EP-4000's maximum output... the EP4000 is a much better bargain on a per-watt basis... but the XTi weighs much less and has DSP.
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Is there anything on the consumer line that even comes close to the 1500+ watts I need to power my sub that wont require a small personal loan to be taken out?

Do I have to go pro?

FWIW, I recently wrote a little survey on sub amps.

It might help you, might not. My context is a multisub system, not a single sub.,

But what makes you think you "need" 1.5kW?

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I've heard Behringer amps run loud and require fan mods. Yes?

True. just added iNuke 6000DSP last night. The first and the only thing you hear when u start the amp is the fan noise, which is ridiculously loud. But no complaints here coz it is not for home use. I swapped both the fans with Noctua 80mm fans. No more fan noise here. Performance wise, it proved ballsy for me at least.

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Do the Inuke DSPs provide enough filters to do justice to a folded horn? Would be great to simplify and not need a mini DSP or BFD...
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The current iNuke DSP implementation is great (plenty of filters), but there is nothing available below 20 Hz.
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I've heard Behringer amps run loud and require fan mods. Yes?

I placed my EP4000 under a couch, It cuts down on the fan noise a lot. I can BARELY hear the fan at the main listening position.

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I placed my EP4000 under a couch, It cuts down on the fan noise a lot. I can BARELY hear the fan at the main listening position.

kinda dusty and hot under there though isnt it?

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Fan mod = one of the easiest things to do on a Behringer. 100% effective, plenty of tutorials out there, takes 5 minutes. No excuse not to, this is DIY! biggrin.gif

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So using a pro amp for a sub is it suggested I buy some sort of device that increases the output volts from my receiver sub out?

I use a Pioneer Elite SC-25 and I think the output sensitivity is like .35V or something like that? Dont know much about it.
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I have one of those alongside my EP2500 (EP4000s are basically rebadged 2500s). In a pinch, the BK can work, but I use mine just for my Buttkickers. Bad SN ratio, response falls off well before the EPs. It's great for it's intended use and runs cool and silent. But the EP is a much better option for sub use.
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Yeah I'm gonna go with an EP4000. What fan did you guys end up using for the swap?
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kinda dusty and hot under there though isnt it?


The couches have tall feet and the outtake of the amp is on the edge so the hot air doesn't stay under. I have not seen much dust on the amp since I've been using it, I guess YMMV!

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