Originally Posted by Mrkazador
Did EricH email you the schematic for the crossover? I know they're not posted on the forums, just wondering how people get them when you buy a kit.
The schematic was shipped with the rest of the kit.
I had a chance to do some listening tonight. The first thing I always try listening to is the intro through the chorus of Dire Straits Money For Nothing. As soon as the intro started I started grinning and when the crescendo hits and the solo guitar riff starts I got chills, so I guess that's a good sign. Female voices sound especially amazing, just absolutely on the money. The top end sounds very good to me in my room, I'm fairly sensitive to brightness/harshness and I haven't gotten any of that or any fatigue or whatnot. I'm pretty sure I'm at the limit of my room in that respect as I have no treatments, and although I've thought about it, I don't think it makes sense to fully treat an apartment I'm not going to be at in 6 months.
Obviously the output is/can be silly and seemingly effortless. I think neighbors would complain or I'd physically not be able to take anymore before the speakers complained. The receiver was barely able to attenuate them low enough using Audyssey to still level match at 75dB. I haven't played with turning Audyssey on or off, I only have the basic version and in my experience it's about 50/50 as to whether I like it better or not.
There's some stuff I need to play with. First and foremost, I'm using my subs as speaker stands and the throat of the waveguide is about a foot above my ears. The vertical off axis is good enough that it still sounds fine, but if I squatted with the tweeters at ear levels I liked the sound even more. Flipping the speakers over puts the waveguide about 7 inches or so below my ears, so I'm going with that for now with the added benefit that when I lay down on the couch they're at about the perfect height! I'd like to build stands, but I need to see if there are decent places to put the subs first.
Secondly, I need to play around with positioning. Right now I sit about 8.5 feet from the TV and I have the speakers about 7 feet apart. I started with aiming each at the opposite, outside edge of the couch arm (probably about 35 degrees). I think I'd like to try them a little farther apart and toed in a little more. The soundstage is pretty decently sized as is, I'm not even sure if I could tell blind where I was anywhere along the ~3 feet to either direction from the center of the couch.
I have a dip around 53Hz that I need to figure out. I also have some stuff going on around the sub->speaker crossover that I need to figure out, I imagine I can solve that fairly easily with some delay in the miniDSP, but I want to figure out the sub and stand situation before I put too much time into it. I'd also like to get measurements of the speakers out of the room but that might take a bit.
I did watch some sections of movies, trying to focus on those with panning effects, dynamic effects, and dialogue that I've found "small", "boxy", or just difficult to understand in the past. Dynamics are very good and panning seems very good. In my head I was thinking everytime I started a clip about not having a "real" center and worrying about if that was going to ruin the experience but what I found was, a few minutes into the scene I'd totally forgotten to be worried, everything sounded quite good. I think I'd still prefer to have an AT screen and a matched, equal height front 3 but that's not possible for now. I may build some Malcolm variant and hang it over the TV just to experiment with the difference, but based on tonight I didn't feel like I was missing anything.
Always more to do..the problem is instead of being content this makes me want to build more variants of the SEOS stuff just to compare different woofers, different form factors, and different design decisions and implementations. This DIY thing is definitely a sickness and I believe I've done went and got it.
Conclusion thus far is I'm very pleased. It's hard to say much more because they're so vastly superior to anything I've had in here that it's a pointless comparison. At some point I'll take them over to carp's, he has a bigger and better room and I've heard several different speakers there in the past year, so that'll be more interesting.