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Old 01-28-2013, 06:42 AM
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BTW. that comparison is bad, the Peavy was in a reflective corner and the B&W was not. You need to make sure the playing field is even and what the others said.

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Really, you might as well be comparing a Kia to a Ferrari. Make that Peavey a Meyer of even half the price of the BW and the BW will come up very short.

I paid $1350 for the B&W, so in that case, I suppose a pair of QSC KW153 would be a fairer price-range comparison speaker.
I'll have to go window shopping at my local Pro Sound retailer, see if I can find me a high-SQ sounding Pro speaker...
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And keep in mind, there are pro sound speakers made for pro sound, that extract maximum power handling and SPL (high cross over, playing in the woofer stop band, etc.) and there are hifi speakers that use pro sound components. I could use the drivers and cab from the B&W speakers and make them sound very bad all while increasing effeciency and power handling.
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So can someone make one without having the cabinent look the same for similar or better response?

Also sorry about the bump.
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I owned a pair of B&W 802D when they were first introduced. (of course I was making closer to $100k per year also). They sounded awesome but required hi-end power to driver them. I had to use McIntosh MC501 monoblocks for best performance. Forget trying to use your AVR no matter what brand it is, the speakers fall on their face. That really rubbed me the wrong way, I had no idea I had to pay out the butt for speakers to sound good. I sold them about 5 years later and only lost $3k. Not bad depreciation for used speakers. I sold my amps too and paid cash for my truck. lol Ya cant drive your stereo around town. Now I DIY everything and couldn't be happier. At least I don't feel like I blew $20k on an AV system. I still need to build some dedicated 2 ch. speakers but that will wait until my theater is completed.

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I owned a pair of B&W 802D when they were first introduced. (of course I was making closer to $100k per year also). They sounded awesome but required hi-end power to driver them. I had to use McIntosh MC501 monoblocks for best performance. Forget trying to use your AVR no matter what brand it is, the speakers fall on their face. That really rubbed me the wrong way, I had no idea I had to pay out the butt for speakers to sound good. I sold them about 5 years later and only lost $3k. Not bad depreciation for used speakers. I sold my amps too and paid cash for my truck. lol Ya cant drive your stereo around town. Now I DIY everything and couldn't be happier. At least I don't feel like I blew $20k on an AV system. I still need to build some dedicated 2 ch. speakers but that will wait until my theater is completed.
That is interesting. I am curious, what are the DIY designs that you have built since selling your B&W 802D's and how do you think they stack up, in your subjective opinion? Of course, I do realize that a Seos12 on a DNA360 over an AE TD15M might be a killer DIY speaker, I would highly doubt it coming any where close to the 802D's, but, just for the sake of the argument, can you offer any insight to how your builds might have stood up against the big bad 802D's?
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Also, just curious, if you were to build yourself a stand alone two channel setup that was purposely built to sound as close to the 802D's as possible, for music, what would you build? Perhaps something using a RAAL ribbon over an Acuton, Seas, or Scan Speak mid, with a nice SS or Seas woofer? I have always wanted to build a dedicated 2 channel beast that uses the RAAL Scan Speak and Acuton drivers! I just can't seem to bring myself to pay $1,400 in drivers for each speaker, and then have to fork out an extra $500+ to have a crossover designed for it, although, if all goes well with my wife's new job, this project fantisty of mine might actually happen by fall!
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Some already completed a clone B&W 800 speaker...
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Also, just curious, if you were to build yourself a stand alone two channel setup that was purposely built to sound as close to the 802D's as possible, for music, what would you build? Perhaps something using a RAAL ribbon over an Acuton, Seas, or Scan Speak mid, with a nice SS or Seas woofer? I have always wanted to build a dedicated 2 channel beast that uses the RAAL Scan Speak and Acuton drivers! I just can't seem to bring myself to pay $1,400 in drivers for each speaker, and then have to fork out an extra $500+ to have a crossover designed for it, although, if all goes well with my wife's new job, this project fantisty of mine might actually happen by fall!
Whom would you get to design the crossovers?

Hell I'll gladly pay around $3500 to $4500 to get a speaker that can sound like a $25000 one.
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Whom would you get to design the crossovers?

Hell I'll gladly pay around $3500 to $4500 to get a speaker that can sound like a $25000 one.

http://www.northcreekmusic.com/B-W_C...rossovers.html
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Whom would you get to design the crossovers?

Hell I'll gladly pay around $3500 to $4500 to get a speaker that can sound like a $25000 one.

http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Jensen.htm

Just one of the many ultra high end designs done by Troels
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Whom would you get to design the crossovers?

Hell I'll gladly pay around $3500 to $4500 to get a speaker that can sound like a $25000 one.
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I can tell you from first hand experience that those crossovers fall somewhere between an online calculator and an actual real crossover. Madisound isnt building a box for your design for $40-75 You wont come close to high fidelity from that route
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