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Oh I didn't mean I thought you should leave them as is, although my twisted evil mind did think for a moment of cheap (cheesy) wood-grain vinyl wrap and a pair of thrift shop grill badges that say "Fisher" or something similar. Then watch your guest's faces as you crank it up. wink.gif

Piano black is going to be killer.
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Oh I didn't mean I thought you should leave them as is, although my twisted evil mind did think for a moment of cheap (cheesy) wood-grain vinyl wrap and a pair of thrift shop grill badges that say "Fisher" or something similar. Then watch your guest's faces as you crank it up. wink.gif

Piano black is going to be killer.

I actually do have old Fisher speakers in the attic. I really should see if I can remove the baffle and install a SEOS kit into it. Would be hilarious and retro.
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LoL @ you guys. That piano black finish is going to look sooo good on there! How are you liking them so far?
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bhazard, any plans to add a center down the road? I realize after seeing your pics that would entail ripping apart your stand/equipment rack and doing something completely different there, but comments made so far make it sound like a good center would really push your movie watching experience to the next level in terms of dialog clarity and such.
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Yes... blank............. or home videos.....

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LoL @ you guys. That piano black finish is going to look sooo good on there! How are you liking them so far?

They're amazing. I haven't even broke 100db yet, and that is plenty for the room. They can do 122 if I wanted.
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bhazard, any plans to add a center down the road? I realize after seeing your pics that would entail ripping apart your stand/equipment rack and doing something completely different there, but comments made so far make it sound like a good center would really push your movie watching experience to the next level in terms of dialog clarity and such.

Not with that current stand. The top shelf is the only one that can hold the XPA-5. Down the road if I change the stand or move, I'll build the SEOS center that is coming out.

As far as cloaked voices, I don't really hear them anymore. I've come to realize its because I'm missing Dynamic EQ having Trinnov, running at -15, and I never use dynamic compensation/compression. There really isn't a need for a center at all. Running at reference gets really stupid loud and pisses everyone off around me.
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I actually do have old Fisher speakers in the attic. I really should see if I can remove the baffle and install a SEOS kit into it. Would be hilarious and retro.

That would be cool...a new Econowave build (sort of).

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"Mini" versions! Some crazy powerful surrounds right there.



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Those grills look awesome!
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Everything good mang?
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Everything good mang?

All is well. Haven't had time to hook them up yet, but I will this weekend.

I see some full range, double bass tower and surround action in the near future. Why buy more 18s when I now have 4 12s also in the room. lol
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Hi guys, I'm very interested to DIY build 3 units of this TD12X SEOS Tower (similar to this build) as my LCR, the only difference is build it in two 12" or 15" woofers instead of one woofer? anyone can kindly please advise & guide me are there any changes needed on the crossover, bracing & the design of the speaker cabinet?
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Hi guys, I'm very interested to DIY build 3 units of this TD12X SEOS Tower (similar to this build) as my LCR, the only difference is build it in two 12" or 15" woofers instead of one woofer? anyone can kindly please advise & guide me are there any changes needed on the crossover, bracing & the design of the speaker cabinet?



Although I recommend starting your own thread, I will try to answer your questions.
Yes, if you go with duel 12's or duel 15's in the Seos based designed, you will certainly have to modify the crossover, but how much I can not say as I am not sure if it would make all that much difference in the crossover.

The cabinet will certainly have to be modified. Most people order the baffles pre-cut from DIYSG, but if you are planning on adding another woodfer, you will have to make a baffle that will hold two woofers. You might try asking Erich if he could make you a custom baffle on the CNC machine that he uses.

Hope that helps!
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Thanks & appreciate it, but the OP didn't show how's the internal bracing looks like for this speaker design
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There are a few pics of the bracing in the shots. I didn't cut the bracing so Joey would have to go more into detail.

Another update, I had to flip wires on the CD, as the crossover design has reverse polarity. The speakers were tested and run for over a month with the CD in reverse!! The "veil" that JB mentioned was immediately lifted once I did this. Would have loved to retest these and the Khans now that they are wired correctly.

I also added an Inuke NU4-6000 to replace my XPA-5 and EP4000. It is now running these speakers AND my 2 subs. Works great.
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A retest would be great! Should have figured it was that now that we know. Makes absolute sense having a suckout like that.

There is no real magic to bracing, I just try my best to allow air to move while really hitting the mid lines of the panels. Also don't want to obstruct the port opening. Using the birch helps quite a bit as well.

Vin, what did you do with both units now that they are replaced with the iNuke? biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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A retest would be great! Should have figured it was that now that we know. Makes absolute sense having a suckout like that.

There is no real magic to bracing, I just try my best to allow air to move while really hitting the mid lines of the panels. Also don't want to obstruct the port opening. Using the birch helps quite a bit as well.

Vin, what did you do with both units now that they are replaced with the iNuke? biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

The XPA-5 is sold, and the EP4000 will be up for sale soon.
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Bhazard,

any updates of your impressions & reviews after some break in time for both HT & 2 channel music duties?
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Bhazard,

any updates of your impressions & reviews after some break in time for both HT & 2 channel music duties?

Unless you buy a Seaton Catalyst or JTR Noesis for quite a bit more $$, nothing can touch a SEOS kit in value/performance right now. This kit has the ability to play full range with 0 issues, and handles more power than the average SEOS kit.

It is the best speaker I've heard by far in the price range.
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i agree with bhazard, the performance per $ spent is pretty unmatched across all the SEOS designs

bhazard i may have asked this before but why are these towers tuned to?
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i agree with bhazard, the performance per $ spent is pretty unmatched across all the SEOS designs

bhazard i may have asked this before but why are these towers tuned to?

32-34hz. They can play as deep as a BIC F12 sub if you want them to, which makes them great space savers/apartment speakers as long as you keep the volume down. Crank them up, and no apartment/condo association will keep you around. lol
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Ordered the TD12Xs.

I feel like DIY is the way to go. There may be huge advances or price drops in quality compression drivers for these designs within the next few years. I always see JTR crossovers being upgraded, so I could see a Noesis quality SEOS happen within the next few years.

Did you use the 4ohm or 8ohm version of the TD12X?
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