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post #91 of 122 Old 11-19-2013, 08:38 AM
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"Why not use PEQ instead of HS, with gain and Q to make the right half approximate the HS, so that the mirrored left has gives 12 dB more cut on the low end?"

that may be a way to go about it as well. i'm just not quite sure how that would work.

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My HTPC runs Jriver already:)

It's a little bit outside this thread, but how would one go about such system in a good way?
There is some good info in this thread: Oddball inwall
Also, dlbeck's home theater thread will detail a 15 channel setup using JRiver: The Savoy

In a few weeks I will be receiving a demo of Solid State Logic's Alpha-Link MX 4-16 DAC and MadiXtreme PCIe card.

Here is a thread I started at JRiver's forum about Methods of Output to an Audio Device. I eventually hope to list a bunch of options in the thread for multi-channel DACs.
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Thx, desertdome!

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"Why not use PEQ instead of HS, with gain and Q to make the right half approximate the HS, so that the mirrored left has gives 12 dB more cut on the low end?"

that may be a way to go about it as well. i'm just not quite sure how that would work.

What's not to be sure about?

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i'm not sure what settings would be used, how closely it could be made to the target, and what advantage it would provide...so pretty much everything. my sense is your right, i'm just not sure how to go about it.

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There is some good info in this thread: Oddball inwall
Also, dlbeck's home theater thread will detail a 15 channel setup using JRiver: The Savoy

In a few weeks I will be receiving a demo of Solid State Logic's Alpha-Link MX 4-16 DAC and MadiXtreme PCIe card.

Here is a thread I started at JRiver's forum about Methods of Output to an Audio Device. I eventually hope to list a bunch of options in the thread for multi-channel DACs.

I'll look into that. Thanks.
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i'm not sure what settings would be used, how closely it could be made to the target, and what advantage it would provide...so pretty much everything. my sense is your right, i'm just not sure how to go about it.

How about this:

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Has a bit of ripple, but not much and seems to do the job otherwise.

What do you think, lilmike?
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"How about this"

that looks good. ricci's method was similar.

with a little farting around, you might be able to get a little bit less ripple, but there comes a point where its 'good enough'.

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also, one neat little trick is to create a driver and put an LR transform on it down to 1hz. that makes a perfectly flat line. from there, you can plop a filter on it such as LR 24 at 16hz, or whatever your target is. that way you can see how close you are on target with the synthetic. with the shelf filter, it is possible to nail it exact.

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Has a bit of ripple, but not much and seems to do the job otherwise.

What do you think, lilmike?

Looks like that will work. Won't know till I measure things.

I'll pull the amp, get my load resistors out, and take some measurements to confirm as soon as I'm able.

Will be a few days before I can mess with it though.
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that looks good. ricci's method was similar.

then what the heck weren't you sure about? smile.gif
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also, one neat little trick is to create a driver and put an LR transform on it down to 1hz.

I made the driver essentially flat by changing its parameters to Fs = 5, Qe = .6, Vas = 1000 L

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"then what the heck weren't you sure about?"

probably just how accurate it could be made to match up. i farted around with it before for quite some time and could never really get things to match that way, and the lower the target/steeper the slope, the further off it would be. but like i mentioned above, in many scenarios, it certainly seems like it would be 'good enough'.

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I'm interested and would buy on of them. biggrin.gif
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We now have a Behringer rep on this forum. His name is John DiNicola. I invited him to check out this thread.

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i woudl also support this, i have an iNuke 1k powering some things and really like it. a stand alone would be very nice
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We now have a Behringer rep on this forum. His name is John DiNicola. I invited him to check out this thread.

Nice. Would be interesting to hear the man's thoughts on the matter.

I am still down for something like this but in the sense of being a updated/new replacement for the DCX with the option to rackmount. Best of both worlds.

And also.... in black. smile.gif

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The strange thing is that they recently modified the DCX2496 slightly, making a new model number DCX2496LE. This version has no digital inputs or outputs and costs less than the regular DCX2496. That's a step in the right direction, but it would be really great if they could have one with a USB control port and software resembling that of the iNuke DSP amps.
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Should be simple for them to put the DSP from the iNuke into a stand alone processor. Seems tailor made to fit a need for both pro and HT applications. The iNuke GUI is very user friendly.

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The strange thing is that they recently modified the DCX2496 slightly, making a new model number DCX2496LE. This version has no digital inputs or outputs and costs less than the regular DCX2496. That's a step in the right direction, but it would be really great if they could have one with a USB control port and software resembling that of the iNuke DSP amps.

I noticed this release recently.

It also omits a third input, which I think is useful.

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It also omits a third input, which I think is useful.

Ooh, I had missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Ooh, I had missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.

Yeah an important distinction of the LE version which is also $50 less. A third input may never be used by someone so saving $50 might be worth it for them.

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I'd be completely satisfied/happy if they'd just update the software in the DCX2496 to be like the iNuke DSP. A facelift of sorts.
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I'd be completely satisfied/happy if they'd just update the software in the DCX2496 to be like the iNuke DSP. A facelift of sorts.

Would be nice...I am on the fence for ordering the DCX2496. I already have plenty of parametric equilization capability but both devices (Behringer DSP1124P and FBQ2496) lack HPF/LPF.

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I'd be completely satisfied/happy if they'd just update the software in the DCX2496 to be like the iNuke DSP. A facelift of sorts.

You and everyone else! eek.gifsmile.gif

Yes, if they would just allow the extension of the filters to say, 10Hz, it would do wonders for the HT crowd. Great piece of gear, but just a tad short of ideal.

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I would be interested in a behringer dsp only rack mount
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I want the lab gruppen amps to have 12v trigger too... Then they would be perfect.

Pro amps likely wont add another relay in there tho, they dont want another part that can fail.
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I want the lab gruppen amps to have 12v trigger too... Then they would be perfect.

Pro amps likely wont add anothweter relay in there tho, they dont want another part that can fail.
Wtf. Did I miss something.

Add me to the list of interested parties for a standalone inuke dsp or an updated dcx.
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2RU solution for 16 inputs, 16 outputs:
2 of these (one for input, one for output): http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/P16/
2 of these: http://www.minidsp.com/products/mini...8-x-in-8-x-out
16 of these: http://www.parts-express.com/talent-...15-ft--240-909
optionally 1 of these: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/ra...ure-37-2u.html
~$1200 Not cheap or easy, but problem solved!
(Expand as needed.)

But yeah... it would be great if it could be bought as a professionally packaged product!!!
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