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Hey everyone, I'm mostly a lurker. I rarely post, and don't think I have in over a year...

I initially wanted to purchase 5 SHO-10s from CHT last summer. Glad I didn't (although I'm sure their product is great!), because I found DIY sound group.
At first I was hesitant of a 12" midrange, but the specs of the Tempest looked to be exactly what I wanted. So I ordered 2 kits from Erich. My main goals are something clean sounding, 97-99db efficiency, 2-way, and a compression driver. This will be my first pair of speakers with a waveguide/compression driver, so I'm SUPER excited.
My previous setup was 4 Definitive BP6s, and a CLR 2500 with an Epik Empire for the low stuff. Hoping these will sound great enough to make me want to build 3 more.

They arrived a couple weeks later, the packaging was better than anything I'd previously seen! Great job Erich. The boxes were packed neatly, styrofoam was cut to fill voids, along with bubble wrap and paper stuffing. ROCK SOLID.

My plan is to finish the boxes using Birch ply, all mitre joints with a dado and dowel bracing. Then finish the box in a deep cherry/champagne stain with varnish. For Erich's baffles, I intend to finish them in a rich cream color with a heavy gloss coating for a "piano" finish. Hoping it looks nice/classy with the contrasting black drivers and ports... We'll see

I'm going to try and upload some pics of the progress so far
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Dry fit of a couple of panels and the dado brace between the waveguide and woofer





Erich's baffle with coats of oil based primer. Sitting for 4 days before sanding...





Baffle with paint. Waiting 7 days before sanding and possibly recoating before glaze coats
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My first time assembling crossovers (or speakers for that matter), so I'm a little nervous with the layout.
If anyone sees any issues, please chime in?

Let me know what you think!

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That is going to look really, really good when finished.
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Any update on this? I started my build and was going to make window "circle" braces like yours until I failed! Cant wait to see how the finish turns out!

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Would love to see the finish!
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My first time assembling crossovers (or speakers for that matter), so I'm a little nervous with the layout.
If anyone sees any issues, please chime in?

The layout looks fine, but did you solder the connections? From the photo it looks like you just used hot glue, which I don't think will work.

Also, I would suggest labeling the connections on the board. It is easy to figure out which are which now, but when you are installing them in the cabinets you don't want to accidentally hook the compression driver to the woofer output and vice-versa.

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In the other photos you can see the solder.

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Subscribing. Looking forward to seeing the finished product. Have been eyeing the SEOS speakers for a while, but the "square box with Duratex" just wouldn't cut it in a non-dedicated HT.

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I am highly looking forward to seeing how these turn out! I absolutely hate when people use that Duratex stuff because it just looks so dull. I guess that would be ok for people who just leave them behind the screen, but for the rest of us that use them in our living rooms, dens or man caves, I would prefer a nice stain or perhaps a really nice paint job.
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Any update on how these turned out?
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Subscribing. Looking forward to seeing the finished product. Have been eyeing the SEOS speakers for a while, but the "square box with Duratex" just wouldn't cut it in a non-dedicated HT.

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I am highly looking forward to seeing how these turn out! I absolutely hate when people use that Duratex stuff because it just looks so dull. I guess that would be ok for people who just leave them behind the screen, but for the rest of us that use them in our living rooms, dens or man caves, I would prefer a nice stain or perhaps a really nice paint job.

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They're done! Took a lot longer than expected due to some other non-project related delays...
Crappy pics but I think you'll get the idea. They sound great!


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Cool build, they look awesome!
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Wow, impressive!

Did you use a veneer? What kind of stain did you use and do you plan on leaving the baffles white? They look great!
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Thanks guys, I'm super happy with the way they turned out.

Its plywood with a birch veneer, basic deep wine colored stain from menards with 2 coats of poly over it. The baffles are actually a creme color, so not quite white
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The more I look at those pictures, the more I like the look of those bad boys!

What type of Birch veneer did you use? Was it the kind that came in a roll?
Also, how did you apply the veneer?
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Am building Fusion 12 cabinet from kit and am planning on cream white baffle and cherry veneer without stain. I do not have spray skills and am ok with a less than ideal finishing. Do you think I can do this with a brush? So it is oil primer, oil paint and oil gloss. Do have any further advice on this such as maker and color numbers of paint used?
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Am building Fusion 12 cabinet from kit and am planning on cream white baffle and cherry veneer without stain. I do not have spray skills and am ok with a less than ideal finishing. Do you think I can do this with a brush? So it is oil primer, oil paint and oil gloss. Do have any further advice on this such as maker and color numbers of paint used?

You do not need spray booth to get great results . Painting over veneer is criminal eek.gif. Buy some watco danish oil with natural or cherry color. Sand with 600 grit and then apply 1st coat. Wipe on , let it sit for 10 minutes and then buff off smooth . Wait a day and repeat but this time use wet/dry 600 sandpaper on a surface that has a film of oil on it. Again buff off. Do a 3rd coat the same as the second ad your done. You now have a super smooth , awesome looking color. Put some minwax on if you want a shine. smile.gif
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Here's a pic of one I did.
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Sorry I was not clear. I did not mean that I'd paint the veneer but the baffle only similar to the subject. I like the idea of the cream gloss painted baffle. Also like your idea as to best finishing the veneer. I'd not use stain and just let the cherry darken with time / indirect sun  light. Our kitchen cabinets are also a natural cheery.  Tomorrow will put polyfill in the cabinets (speaker cabinets :<)  ). So next steps are the poly fill, veneering, and painting the baffle. Any advice is welcome.  It is a DIYsound group speaker kit with speaker enclosure flat pack.

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I wouldn't recommend leaving unfinished Wood. If you spill wine on it it will be very hard to get out. Over time the cherry wood will likely discolor a bit. Doing the danish oil takes minutes and I teach grade 6's how to do it so you know its easy. biggrin.gif
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Thanks, yes I will not use stain but will use the Danish oil natural. A lot of 6th graders would out do my carpentry but I will try my best.

On the baffle I will try the oil cream white like on this thread.
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Thanks, yes I will not use stain but will use the Danish oil natural. A lot of 6th graders would out do my carpentry but I will try my best.

On the baffle I will try the oil cream white like on this thread.

Trust me your woodworking skills are at least grade 9 biggrin.gif. If you run into any issues let me know.
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Tomorrow we apply the wood backed cherry vaneer. Will try dap weldwood contact cement.

It would be a bonus to get a fairly good look but mainly looking for good sound.
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The cherry veneer came out very well using the Watco natural oil. Great stuff. The outer baffle was painted with gloss oil paint and now waiting for that to dry and then will complete assembly.

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That's great. It takes a couple of weeks for the smell to go away . Post some pics !!!:what:
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