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post #481 of 506 Old 05-22-2013, 11:13 PM
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I might be interested as well.

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I'd be interested.
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I would be interested in a second GB as well.

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What was the shipping prices in the end?

Just curios what I need to add onto the price.
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Hello All, we have now wrapped up the first buy, and the remaining stragglers have been shipped back to me.
I am down for the next group buy. But there will need to be some new guidelines and understandings.
In order to get the same discount, it will have to be more like a regular transaction with a manufacturer.

1) One purchase order, (PO), and one payment.

2) 1" drivers come in packs of six and twelve. 4550, 4554, and 4555 are in packs of six. Order must be in multiples of six. This includes impedances. EG, 4550-8 and 4550-16 are considered different drivers, and each come in packs of six.
(I will make exceptions for 4552 and other 12 packs and ship from me, as I did last time.) (I cannot ship to anywhere but USA/Canada.)

3) Just to be clear, the shipment comes from Germany, to the nearest airport, where it clears customs. Sometimes the forwarding company ships to somewhere else close by. Say Vancouver Canada instead of SEA/TAC. Usually this straightens out over time. We look at this as an ongoing project, and we have to straighten out wrinkles as we go. The longer the transactions go on, the smoother it gets. I clear the shipment through customs, that cost and shipping to the airport is included in the original price. Things that are not included in the original price: When the order clears customs, the shipment needs to be picked up, and in most cases there is a dock fee of $25 to $40. If it is not picked up immediately a daily storage fee will start. If wanted I can have it shipped from the warehouse to the recipients door. All of these are added fees, and must be paid by the recipient.

4) When the PO is put in to me, I will make the order with BMS. They will advise me on availability. Usually, but not always, the compression drivers are in stock. If they are not in stock, they usually take two weeks to get in. Cones are almost never in stock and like an OEM company are built to order. Cones usually take four weeks to ship. Sometimes there are cases where is takes more for special parts, or the queue is longer, and the lead times are longer. At this point you have three choices. Ship the order with what is available. Wait for the entire order to be filled, and then ship. Cancel the order. In the case of the second option, the net $ target must still be met.

5) An alternative would be to set a smaller goal, and have a smaller discount, with me shipping directly to each individual.

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Hi, Jack would the discount be the original 30%?
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Hi, Jack would the discount be the original 30%?

Yes, 30%, and a $10K net order.
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What was the shipping prices in the end?

Just curios what I need to add onto the price.

erich told me it ended up being $15 for 2 4594
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HHMMMM not bad. I wonder if BMS have a small midrange that can be used in a synergy? smile.gif
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Hi - I am Very interested too - !!!!
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I think I'd be in for a few 4594. D_c what made you decide on the 4593?
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I think I'd be in for a few 4594. D_c what made you decide on the 4593?

It looked like that was the one most commonly used. I'm not set on it though if there is a more versatile dual. What about you: why the 4594?
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It looked like that was the one most commonly used. I'm not set on it though if there is a more versatile dual. What about you: why the 4594?
Lol seemed to me like the 4594 was the more frequently used of the two.
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Lol seemed to me like the 4594 was the more frequently used of the two.
I'm pretty sure you are right:

From Jack Arnott earlier in the thread:
The difference is in the magnet for the HF section. On the 4594 it is a ring that is outside the VC (Voice Coil), on the 4593 it is inside the VC. (Not sure if it is a ring or round slug.)
The 4594 has a slightly better Flux Density. I have been told that the HF holds a bit stronger than than the 4593, but have not compared them.



I also read the 4594 has better dispersion. So, I'm changing my mind and heading toward the 4594 with you. If it is like the last group buy, they need to be purchased in groups of 6. What do you have planned? I have 6x LAB15 that I'm going to use for an LCR. Still on the hunt for the horn, and might try building some first.
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I'm pretty sure you are right:

From Jack Arnott earlier in the thread:
The difference is in the magnet for the HF section. On the 4594 it is a ring that is outside the VC (Voice Coil), on the 4593 it is inside the VC. (Not sure if it is a ring or round slug.)
The 4594 has a slightly better Flux Density. I have been told that the HF holds a bit stronger than than the 4593, but have not compared them.



I also read the 4594 has better dispersion. So, I'm changing my mind and heading toward the 4594 with you. If it is like the last group buy, they need to be purchased in groups of 6. What do you have planned? I have 6x LAB15 that I'm going to use for an LCR. Still on the hunt for the horn, and might try building some first.
With the 4593 and the lab15 you'd be making a 215RT clone!

FWIW, I couldn't even find the 4593 to purchase from Assistance Audio or US Speaker, and the 4594 is better anyway.
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With the 4593 and the lab15 you'd be making a 215RT clone!



FWIW, I couldn't even find the 4593 to purchase from Assistance Audio or US Speaker, and the 4594 is better anyway.

Bingo! Are you using a 4594 in the monsters you are building Luke?
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Bingo! Are you using a 4594 in the monsters you are building Luke?
Yes sir. I already have them, I'm just waiting on the 18" woofers from AE.



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How low are you planning to cross to the 18?
I'm planning on a 35hz tune, and hoping to cross them around 60hz. Depends on the measurements once they're done.

If running "full range" with a HPF somewhere around ~32hz, these should be capable of around 130db from 35hz and up.
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I'm pretty sure you are right:

From Jack Arnott earlier in the thread:
The difference is in the magnet for the HF section. On the 4594 it is a ring that is outside the VC (Voice Coil), on the 4593 it is inside the VC. (Not sure if it is a ring or round slug.)
The 4594 has a slightly better Flux Density. I have been told that the HF holds a bit stronger than than the 4593, but have not compared them.



I also read the 4594 has better dispersion. So, I'm changing my mind and heading toward the 4594 with you. If it is like the last group buy, they need to be purchased in groups of 6. What do you have planned? I have 6x LAB15 that I'm going to use for an LCR. Still on the hunt for the horn, and might try building some first.
I have 3) seos 24s and 6)AE TD15X. I'd like to tune around 35/40hz. I also have 3)PB18H+ which are TD 18s minus the phase plug. I'm leaning more towards the 15s though.
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Where will you guys xo to the cd?
Somewhere around ~550hz.
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In ChopShop's thread, Matt said they were crossing over at 380hz using the minidsp.
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