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The punk's name was Fluffy??...wink.gif
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lol you never stop do you, crazy man biggrin.gif


but im equally as crazy for driving 800 miles in 36 hours

also people in DC cant drive for crap
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lol you never stop do you, crazy man biggrin.gif


but im equally as crazy for driving 800 miles in 36 hours

also people in DC cant drive for crap
36hrs? I've done it in 12, Denver to Vegas. What took so long?
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36hrs? I've done it in 12, Denver to Vegas. What took so long?

had to take breaks at popas house to listen to subs and drink beer, and then drive to PA to drink more beer
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had to take breaks at popas house to listen to subs and drink beer, and then drive to PA to drink more beer

Priorities!

Hey, so after you left man...

I didn't adjust my sub trim...almost blew up my $hit on a commercial...lol.

I was wondering...man, I hear a buzz coming from the subs...Oh, that's because my gain is set to stupid.

 

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Just went 9" deep with some punk fluffy.


WHEW! You must have an understanding ...and happy, wife. biggrin.gif

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The punk's name was Fluffy??...wink.gif

Punk started out as ridged...end up as fluffy.
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Question... If you are putting all the fiberglass behind the screen, will it make the area behind the screen seem larger acoustically? I was planning on having a 5' deep area behind my screen for the speakers, but if I don't need it due to stuffing fiberglass around the speakers and behind them... I would have a larger area for seating.

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had to take breaks at popas house to listen to subs and drink beer, and then drive to PA to drink more beer
Your 800mi sounds more fun than mine was.
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Just went 9" deep with some punk fluffy.
Seems like Fluffy got it hard. I hope you used some lube on Fluffy's pink stink?

You know, every time I've touched Fluffy... I get this red rash afterwards, I think Fluffy might "have" something. biggrin.gif
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Priorities!

Hey, so after you left man...

I didn't adjust my sub trim...almost blew up my $hit on a commercial...lol.

I was wondering...man, I hear a buzz coming from the subs...Oh, that's because my gain is set to stupid.

lol yea that could have been bad

Had a blast down there even tho it was short time, Not sure we convinced you to save money and not go with the Noesis, but I beleive you at least enjoyed the SEOS offerings
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I've never seen it applied like that, compressed/ not compressed, etc. Keep in mind, the acoustic properties where going for w/the fluffy stuff, are altered/compromised when it's compressed at all. smile.gif

I know using fluffy presents logistical issues due to it not being self supporting, it'll stack maybe two high without compressing, and it can be supported with any type of cheapo bird netting. Or, one can hang it vertically. Just hang the batt from the top in any way possible. One could use pants/slacks hangers (clamp type) and merely hang the thing full length. Or some type of dowel, or any kind of wood to loop the entire batt over and hang both sides down full length.

Safe-N-Sound stuff stacks up much better, if one was so inclined.

If you've not seen this;BobGolds, it's indispensable. The info about 3/4 of the way down is great, many good links/pics, etc. While perusing the absorption coefficients, note the "on wall", "x" inches off wall, mounting methodology, and how much one gains with thickness and spacing.

Tons to explore there, all solid stuff.
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Did the insulation make any difference?
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Seems like Fluffy got it hard. I hope you used some lube on Fluffy's pink stink?

You know, every time I've touched Fluffy... I get this red rash afterwards, I think Fluffy might "have" something. biggrin.gif

I used protection and took a shower right afterward.
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Priorities!

Hey, so after you left man...

I didn't adjust my sub trim...almost blew up my $hit on a commercial...lol.

I was wondering...man, I hear a buzz coming from the subs...Oh, that's because my gain is set to stupid.

You have a winner there, check the avatar biggrin.gif
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I've never seen it applied like that, compressed/ not compressed, etc. Keep in mind, the acoustic properties where going for w/the fluffy stuff, are altered/compromised when it's compressed at all. smile.gif

I know using fluffy presents logistical issues due to it not being self supporting, it'll stack maybe two high without compressing, and it can be supported with any type of cheapo bird netting. Or, one can hang it vertically. Just hang the batt from the top in any way possible. One could use pants/slacks hangers (clamp type) and merely hang the thing full length. Or some type of dowel, or any kind of wood to loop the entire batt over and hang both sides down full length.

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Tons to explore there, all solid stuff.

Yeah, did it in a huge hurry...trying to get everything situated before the Cowboys game. In hindsight, it would have been much easier and convenient to hang vertically. It was only $11 worth of pink fluffy, so I'll tear it all down and start over at some point soon.

Thanks for the link! I'll try to give it a read today.
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Did the insulation make any difference?

I watched the Cowboys game and listened to a few songs last night. Couldn't tell a difference...but I clearly didn't execute properly.

When I tear down and re-implement, I will be sure to take some detailed measurements (something I didn't have time for this go around).

 

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popalock...looking forward to seeing your grille write-up...biggrin.gif

Finished the step-by-step write up last night. I'll be making some saw dust tonight. Plan to take lots of pics to accompany the write up. I even have the ol' GoPro setup to do a time lapse video.

I'm going out of town this weekend, but I'll try to have the video edited and everything posted up sometime next week.

It kind of elaborate so I will be making a separate thread so people won't have to dig through this one.

Speaking of new thread. Maybe you guys could help me come up with a schnazzy name for the method? Here are a few that popped in my head over the past couple of days:

"How to make PERFECT Grills using the ---"

Grill Underlay Method - "GUM" Method (Method twice?)
Popalock's Epic Grill Method - "PEG" Method (A bit vein maybe?)
F*$kin Awesome Grill Method - "FAG" Method (Raf out Roud)
Over Engineered Grill Method - "OEG" Method

Anymore suggestions? Just looking for more to put into a poll. Once you guys see the write up, I'd imagine one of the suggested names we come up with here will be a good fit.

 

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Finished the step-by-step write up last night. I'll be making some saw dust tonight. Plan to take lots of pics to accompany the write up. I even have the ol' GoPro setup to do a time lapse video.

I'm going out of town this weekend, but I'll try to have the video edited and everything posted up sometime next week.

It kind of elaborate so I will be making a separate thread so people won't have to dig through this one.

Speaking of new thread. Maybe you guys could help me come up with a schnazzy name for the method? Here are a few that popped in my head over the past couple of days:

"How to make PERFECT Grills using the ---"

Grill Underlay Method - "GUM" Method (Method twice?)
Popalock's Epic Grill Method - "PEG" Method (A bit vein maybe?)
F*$kin Awesome Grill Method - "FAG" Method (Raf out Roud)
Over Engineered Grill Method - "OEG" Method

Anymore suggestions? Just looking for more to put into a poll. Once you guys see the write up, I'd imagine one of the suggested names we come up with here will be a good fit.

Thx! I like the 4th one cuz it represents what most die-hard DIY fellas are all-about...over engineering/thinking on the cheap!
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Got a new toy this weekend.

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Will be using two of the channels of the FP10KQ for my nearfield subs while the FP14K is down for maintenance.

 

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Nice buy - I am trying to figure out what new mains to build so I can have the reason to buy one of those too
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Nice addition Austin, that should make the Klipsch go to another level. I tried to find the dimensions of your rear box build but the index didn't lead me to. Can you give me the numbers?
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Got a new toy this weekend.

Will be using two of the channels of the FP10KQ for my nearfield subs while the FP14K is down for maintenance.

So are the voice coils still intact on the RF7s?? Unacceptable! biggrin.gif
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Nice buy - I am trying to figure out what new mains to build so I can have the reason to buy one of those too

I picked this up to future proof myself. I figure the chance of me either purchasing or building something that needs more than the Clone can deliver would be slim.

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Nice addition Austin, that should make the Klipsch go to another level. I tried to find the dimensions of your rear box build but the index didn't lead me to. Can you give me the numbers?

Thanks for reminding me. I need to dig up that sketchup file and post it up for all. Right off the top of my head... Well, let me confirm and get back to you tonight, but I want to say the dimensions are 40"H x 74"W x 11.75D.

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So are the voice coils still intact on the RF7s?? Unacceptable! biggrin.gif

Just barley had the chance to hook everything up last night. Was quickly reminded how insanely loud the fans are. I'll report back tonight.

 

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I picked this up to future proof myself. I figure the chance of me either purchasing or building something that needs more than the Clone can deliver would be slim.
Thanks for reminding me. I need to dig up that sketchup file and post it up for all. Right off the top of my head... Well, let me confirm and get back to you tonight, but I want to say the dimensions are 40"H x 74"W x 11.75D.
Just barley had the chance to hook everything up last night. Was quickly reminded how insanely loud the fans are. I'll report back tonight.

That's the one thing I hate about some pro amps. The loud fans.
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That's the one thing I hate about some pro amps. The loud fans.
Some are really loud. I just bought a used QSC RMX1850 and it's crazy loud for home use. I just ordered replacement fan. Hopefully it will do the trick, current fan is very distracting with music.

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Some are really loud. I just bought a used QSC RMX1850 and it's crazy loud for home use. I just ordered replacement fan. Hopefully it will do the trick, current fan is very distracting with music.

Man I came real close to picking up some QSC RMX amps awhile back and I had wondered bout the fans. My rack is about 5 feet behind my row of seats so any loud piece of equipment is very noticeable. Hope your new fan works for ya.

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Hey fellas...in another thread, johnplayerson shared an ebay link to a seller offering $5 digital low voltage controllers.

They are small and can be placed in-line with your stock fans...or replacement fans. If you wanted to experiment with reducing the voltage a little bit to cut rpms of fan, and thus noise, this would be the way to do it, especially for amps that don't have more sophisticated and variable cooling management.
When I used to build PCs 15-25 years ago, I would use just such a device (except it was a mechanical knob at that time, not a digital control board) to control case fan speeds because a lot of mother boards did not have effective, or any, control through their fan headers.
At that point, it was a matter of seeing how much I could dial back fan speed while still maintaining an acceptable thermal envelope with the CPU during the most intensive activities the PC was going to be subjected to on a regular basis.

As far as replacement fans, as long as specs such as size, voltage, amperage, and cfm are a match (cfm could exceed original spec of course!), just find a real guiet ball bearing or fluid dynamic bearing (FDB) fan. Sometimes you might have to monkey with connection headers (2-wire, 3, etc).

In counterpoint, the amp designers obviously speced this fan...but, if we are using these amps for a different duty than was intended in our home theaters, maybe the speced fans and fan speeds can be modified slightly?????wink.gif



Here is the link to the AVS Forum page where this is being discussed:

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The control board is at top of page and eBay link is closer to bottom of page.
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