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Just went 9" deep with some punk fluffy.

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Did you re&re the fluffy yet?
Would you have any suggestions for a guy with 30" to work with behind his towers?
I wonder about taking 24" pink, cutting it in half lengthwise and stacking 12" from the rear wall.
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Did you re&re the fluffy yet?
Would you have any suggestions for a guy with 30" to work with behind his towers?
I wonder about taking 24" pink, cutting it in half lengthwise and stacking 12" from the rear wall.
I'm all ears...

The pink fluffy I bought had a 16" width. I didn't realize they sold it in 24" width.

I'm no acoustician, but taking the 16" width pink fluffy, cutting it in 24" lengths and stacking it like bricks would be an incredible bass trap!

If I had the room I would love to do something like that on my front and rear walls...

Still have a ton more to learn about acoustics and treatments in general though.
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The pink fluffy I bought had a 16" width. I didn't realize they sold it in 24" width.

I'm no acoustician, but taking the 16" width pink fluffy, cutting it in 24" lengths and stacking it like bricks would be an incredible bass trap!

If I had the room I would love to do something like that on my front and rear walls...

Still have a ton more to learn about acoustics and treatments in general though.

Will fluffy be dense enough though even if you add more? Really would like to know.

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Will fluffy be dense enough though even if you add more? Really would like to know.

Bob knows a bit more about this stuff than I do.

Check out his consolidated list on Absorption Coefficients. You should be able to get a general idea of how effective a particular product will be at "x" frequency from this list.

Near the bottom of the webpage you will come across this statement:
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In all cases if you have less than 4" you use rigid, if you have 8" or more you use fluffy, unless you need rigid for structure.

With that said, stacking 24" x 16" strips of pink fluffy in a brick like structure would probably be the most awesome absorption I've ever heard of.... I mean I don't know of anyone else that has contemplated going 24" deep in pink fluffy! Well, maybe for some bass traps, but never across their front stage (which is what we are talking about in your case, right?)

There are many many others more knowledgeable on the subject (Ethan, LTD02, FOH, Bosso, etc...) and maybe they will weigh in for you?

Or you could cruise over to the Acoustical Treatment Master Thread and start doing some digging. I found this post regarding thickness and resistance in relation to reflection and transmission that you might find interesting and pertinent to your question.

 

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Bob knows a bit more about this stuff than I do.

Check out his consolidated list on Absorption Coefficients. You should be able to get a general idea of how effective a particular product will be at "x" frequency from this list.

Near the bottom of the webpage you will come across this statement:
With that said, stacking 24" x 16" strips of pink fluffy in a brick like structure would probably be the most awesome absorption I've ever heard of.... I mean I don't know of anyone else that has contemplated going 24" deep in pink fluffy! Well, maybe for some bass traps, but never across their front stage (which is what we are talking about in your case, right?)

There are many many others more knowledgeable on the subject (Ethan, LTD02, FOH, Bosso, etc...) and maybe they will weigh in for you?

Or you could cruise over to the Acoustical Treatment Master Thread and start doing some digging. I found this post regarding thickness and resistance in relation to reflection and transmission that you might find interesting and pertinent to your question.


Thanks, I'll read up some more asap.
These will be my first traps in my first enclosed dedicated room.
I like the potential of the idea, whether 24" against the wall or some combination of 4/6/8" gap + 4/6/8" batt+ 4/6/8"gap + 4/6/8" batt + 4/6/8" to speaker...any combination really.
My rear wall will be somewhat limited but if I can gain 4 or more inches in the front I'll likely copy the idea at the back.
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Bob knows a bit more about this stuff than I do.

Check out his consolidated list on Absorption Coefficients. You should be able to get a general idea of how effective a particular product will be at "x" frequency from this list.

Near the bottom of the webpage you will come across this statement:
With that said, stacking 24" x 16" strips of pink fluffy in a brick like structure would probably be the most awesome absorption I've ever heard of.... I mean I don't know of anyone else that has contemplated going 24" deep in pink fluffy! Well, maybe for some bass traps, but never across their front stage (which is what we are talking about in your case, right?)

There are many many others more knowledgeable on the subject (Ethan, LTD02, FOH, Bosso, etc...) and maybe they will weigh in for you?

Or you could cruise over to the Acoustical Treatment Master Thread and start doing some digging. I found this post regarding thickness and resistance in relation to reflection and transmission that you might find interesting and pertinent to your question.

Oh I agree that pink fluffy does a great job of grabbing noise. When finishing our basement and before the drywall went up, all the insulation was "exposed". It was crazy quiet. Almost the the point where I had to leave the room because it was so unsettling. My more curious question was in the lower frequencies. The link you provided answers that very clearly. So thanks!

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Oh I agree that pink fluffy does a great job of grabbing noise. When finishing our basement and before the drywall went up, all the insulation was "exposed". It was crazy quiet. Almost the the point where I had to leave the room because it was so unsettling. My more curious question was in the lower frequencies. The link you provided answers that very clearly. So thanks!

Cool, glad it helped out. PM me a link if you decide document your pink fluffy exploits.
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First order of destruction...your house in the shadow build!

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Just set up the dcx2496 with the new settings, have to drag the rs232 cable out and upload everything and we should be rocking :scared: eh :Stoked:

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Just set up the dcx2496 with the new settings, have to drag the rs232 cable out and upload everything and we should be rocking :scared: eh :Stoked:

I'm going to bring along the ol miniDSP as well, just to do it... I don't trust your dinosaur DCX...

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I'm going to bring along the ol miniDSP as well, just to do it... I don't trust your dinosaur DCX...

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IF you don't mind me asking how good is that minidsp
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IF you don't mind me asking how good is that minidsp

So good that I only use about 25% of it's capability and it does everything that I want it too....meaning, I should have totally got the 2x4 vs the 10x10HD. At least I don't see the need to upgrade my DSP unit anytime soon.

MiniDSP and REW/Omnimic combo is a very potent combination for the every day Home Theater nut!
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I'm going to bring along the ol miniDSP as well, just to do it... I don't trust your dinosaur DCX...

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Do it smile.gif I'll open a rack spot for it. My darn serial cable wouldn't connect to the laptop as the drivers I had for it apparently are corrupt. I ended up manually adding the filters, and how it is time to work on the delays.

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Do it smile.gif I'll open a rack spot for it. My darn serial cable wouldn't connect to the laptop as the drivers I had for it apparently are corrupt. I ended up manually adding the filters, and how it is time to work on the delays.

Ok, I'll be sure to pack it up. Man, I'm hoping to have my laptop back in my possession by then. Wife tripped over the power cord and broke the power input receptical.

If not, I might have to get you (or someone else) to download my plug-in on their laptop.

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So good that I only use about 25% of it's capability and it does everything that I want it too....meaning, I should have totally got the 2x4 vs the 10x10HD. At least I don't see the need to upgrade my DSP unit anytime soon.

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In a few weeks time.

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HAHAHA! YESSS! I know that I wasn't the only one to declare this as your upgrade path! How many are you adding? eek.gifsmile.gif
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Just two of them. I felt compelled to jump on them before the damn price increase. Really Ricci could have gotten ahold of one to send it through the gauntlet, but I really like SI's 18's, and having seen this 24" in action already (free air) it was literally too fun to pass up!

I got an email from SI this morning indicating that the price was going to increase tomorrow, but I think yesterday was the last day before the price change.

 

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Ok, I'll be sure to pack it up. Man, I'm hoping to have my laptop back in my possession by then. Wife tripped over the power cord and broke the power input receptical.

If not, I might have to get you (or someone else) to download my plug-in on their laptop.

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I will bring mine and I've already got the 10x10 plugin. smile.gif Let me know man.


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I will bring mine and I've already got the 10x10 plugin. smile.gif Let me know man.

Man, that would be awesome... I would appreciate it for sure.

I know we will have ample power on tap, but maybe you could bring a clone as well *cough-for me to buy-*cough*cough*. so we can ensure we have ample power for the pair of 24's!

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