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post #361 of 403 Old 05-18-2013, 09:05 PM
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Yes, but I believe it's a male end on the projector, that kind of weird three sided deal, know what I mean? I'm not home right now to double check!

yeah, so you unplug the female end from the pj. plug the male end of the Hum-X into that female end of the cable. then you connect the male end of the short power cable into the female side of the Hum-X. what you have left is the same female connection to plug into the PJ.


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Will the male end of the Hum-x and the projector cable match up?
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I don't see why not. Ill try it with mine in a bit

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Your right. It doesn't fit.

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Looks like I have to add a receptacle back into the mix.
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What would I need to do to add the Rythmik's to the Daytons, if even possible?
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You need y-splitters to split each sub output from the avr. Then rca cables long enough to go to the rythmiks.

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Oh, I know all that Brian, will they even work together? Would I need to add polyfill to the Rythmik's and plug them up?
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You wouldn't want to add poly or plug them. You would want to try to get them to blend the way they are. It's completely doable. Just not as easy as blending like subs. They should be better than a lot of other ported subs with the ability to tune them to 12hz. Give it a shot.

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I just might play with it, I would need to stack the others in the front and put the R on the back stands, think i would gain much?
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that depends how how everything is now and what volumes your listening at. play with the different tunings of the Rythmiks as well. i bet max output would work well.

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I have yet to run Audyssey Pro, so i'm not sure where i am yet with eq, but i'm liking it very loud I think, 110-120db. This week I had some music on(rush)and when i turned up there was some boominess so I know there is work to be done.
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I just might play with it, I would need to stack the others in the front and put the R on the back stands, think i would gain much?

Hey buddy. Just checking in to see how things are going.

It's hard to tell from your pics, but would there be anyway you can put the rhythmic's nearfield behind your listening position? Having subs nearfield takes the experience to a whole...notha...level...

 

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Hey Austin, things are going ok, kind of slow. Trying to get rid of the hum and thanks to Brian I about have that taken care of. I still need to run a full Audyssey Pro calibration to see where I am with eq, and now ithat I am going to try to add the Rythmik's it should be interesting. How close are you talking about, directly behind the couch I sit on?
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Hey Austin, things are going ok, kind of slow. Trying to get rid of the hum and thanks to Brian I about have that taken care of. I still need to run a full Audyssey Pro calibration to see where I am with eq, and now ithat I am going to try to add the Rythmik's it should be interesting. How close are you talking about, directly behind the couch I sit on?

You know... Directly...



Adds to the "tactical feel."
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I would imagine so!
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Initial impression with the Daytons colocated up front is that I don't like it. I know I'm suppose to gain output but I just don't hear it, also, they just sound kind of flat. I know their not eq'ed properly yet, but I think I'm going to put them back to one in each corner and work on proper eq for that setup. They are also somewhat physically imposing also, which i don't care for.
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mal01- You have a lot more patience than most people.

With everything you've been through, and in this day and age, I'm surprised that no company has come up with a simple way to get this done.
I understand your frustration with different cables, amps, equalization, etc.

I understand with diy there are more obstacles, but honestly for the majority this is too much.

If someone was smart enough to put all the pieces together and offer a one stop shopping place for people that wanted diy with parts needed, they could probably make a buck or two.

I know there are some places out there like that, but they don't tie the pieces together. For instance, most people don't understand that many receivers need some gain added to power an external pro amp. So you have to read thousands of forum posts to find out what's needed. Cables, adapters, fan conversions, etc.
Many don't know what an xlr cable is or why you would want one.

If companies want to sell more products, they need to provide an easier path to sell what's needed. Or forget this whole setup issue and make some standards. There's no reason we shouldn't be connecting every component through one cable like ethernet. There should be only one cable between components and they should be smart enough to know what to do. This isn't rocket science, but because of old standards they make it more complicated than it should be.

Can no one at these amp companies put in a $5 fan that doesn't make tons of noise? Really? Can they not put in a variable input gain that costs $5? Can we please get a signal path that runs on one type of cable.

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this is actually pretty standard entry level DIY learning curve stuff here IMO. i think its a little better documented in this thread than others or at least in more of one place. also this build happens to have a couple more steps involved than others.

as for the complicated cables/loud fans, we are mixing consumer stuff with pro stuff. different customer/situational needs. in the pro world, youll need those noisy fans because for one, they are cheaper and two, they move more air. thats important because these amps could be used in some really hot environments. not to mentioned being crammed into tight locations. as for price, pros are not usually bothered by the louder fans so why add cost to fix something thats not broken?

as for the cables, XLR are designed to stop interference over large runs. thats important to pros but not consumers as well.

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I understand with diy there are more obstacles, but honestly for the majority this is too much.

That's why DIY seperates the men from the boys. The "frustration" and "work" I have put into DIY over the past year has expanded my knowledge base 10 fold over simply being a consumer of commercial products.

You want a turn key DIY product? DIY soundgroup sells kits for many items.

You want someone to hold your hand for every thing requiring a DIY tweak? You know that saying... "Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day..." Same concept applies for DIY. You get out what you put in. I guarantee you that this project was more more gratifying for mal vs simply buying something ready to plug-n-play. It's something many people don't understand until they try it for themselves.

Give it a shot Dustin... biggrin.gif

 

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I figured there would be some bumps along the way, so i wasn't that surprised when they happened. There are thousands of products out there all with their own/different application, so to expect them all to perfectly match up is not reasonable, although i do agree about the fans, just put a quiet one in to begin with. This has been a fun project so far and don't think im done with it yet(eq). With guys like Brian, Austin, Andy and others on here, one can find the info needed pretty quick, so you don't need to go through thousands of post to find what you need, thanks guys! Yes, i wish had gotten into this sooner, I'll never buy another commercial sub again, i could even see having 8,12,16 someday, but first let's get these four as perfect as possible.
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i could even see having 8,12,16 someday...

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I ordered an adapter cord to use with the hum-x and projector, but when it got here today it wouldn't work, it was hard to see if the projector end was male or female, I needed female, it was male. I said screw it, made my own cord from left overs, plugged in the hum-x and no more hum:) I did the co-ax to the amp chassis also, so no more hum anywhere, thanks guys!
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Awesome. That's great to hear.

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I finally got around to running an Audyssey Pro calibration with the SMS in the system and man, i just didn't like it, sounded flat with just a general loss of dynamics. This morning I re-ran XT32(without pro) and the results improved noticeably. I guess I need to get everything I need and get REW going and see what my measurements look like.
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Mal,

Can you give us an update on your system and thoughts between your DIY subs and the Rythmiks? Also, are you keeping the Rythmiks to use with your Daytons? I'm considering these two subs so I'm very interested in your thoughts. Thanks.

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Bump for David's question!
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Sorry I've been tardy on responding but my work schedule has been crazy, pretty much working seven days a week so I haven't been in the theater much. I still feel with proper eq(which I don't think I have yet) these subs are a modest improvement over the Rythmik's, mainly just for sheer higher SPL, don't think they are better quality subs though. I still need to figure out which is the best route to go with eq and get that going to fully maximize what I have. If anyone is interested in the Rythmik's let me know.
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Thanks Mal01. I will still use the Rythmik DIY 1210 for my kitchen but for the HT I decided on 3 LMS 5400s with a SpeakerPower SP2-8000 rack mount amplifier and MiniDSP. I just didn't want to have to wonder if I had the best sound quality AND high output. (reminds me of the Ford commercial about AND)
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Dgage, how do you like your minidsp?
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