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Black adder's Avatar Black adder 07:43 AM 07-28-2014
Thanks Tux, I am sure that I will.

mbyrnes's Avatar mbyrnes 08:19 AM 07-28-2014
Tux you're funny, enjoy? Fatshaft wants to reproduce with them! Enjoy is not a strong enough word! Lol
MX48's Avatar MX48 08:22 AM 07-28-2014
Just finished up a pair of stereo 1099's for a friend of mine and put them in my HT to "break them in" .


Pulled my speakers out of my baffle wall and put in the 1099's. Did a quick eq with REW/MiniDSP and then made sure my subs integrated with them at about 110hz. This is a little higher than most people like but it works for me. All my subs are in my baffle wall so no location issues.


Put on 'Day Before the Day' by Dido, followed by 'Finality' by Woods of Ypres then Sting's 'Shape of My Heart'. Also played 'White Whisper' by Deep Forest to test for separation and depth as it has sections where the voices are seemingly coming from behind you.


As owners of these speakers probably already know I was not disappointed. They were at least as good to me as my current speakers which are active WCW's with B&C coax's and 2 Eminence 12" woofers.


Just for full disclosure tho, whether fortunately or unfortunately I cannot tell much difference in sound quality with speakers at this level. They sound different but not necessarily one better than the other. I have had JTR T8's, Danley SH-50's and 4-5 various active DIY designs including the 4pi, moderately priced ribbons and the DNA 360. I have NOT had the expensive coax in the JTR 212 which I would love to hear before I make a final decision or a high end ribbon. Also have not heard Seaton Cats which I would love to hear also. End disclosure.


Bottom line...these sound fantastic to me.


Will be using it in my HT for about 2 weeks before I deliver/install them for him so I will also get a few movies in as well.


Moto
mbyrnes's Avatar mbyrnes 08:34 AM 07-28-2014
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Originally Posted by MX48 View Post
Just finished up a pair of stereo 1099's for a friend of mine and put them in my HT to "break them in" .


Pulled my speakers out of my baffle wall and put in the 1099's. Did a quick eq with REW/MiniDSP and then made sure my subs integrated with them at about 110hz. This is a little higher than most people like but it works for me. All my subs are in my baffle wall so no location issues.


Put on 'Day Before the Day' by Dido, followed by 'Finality' by Woods of Ypres then Sting's 'Shape of My Heart'. Also played 'White Whisper' by Deep Forest to test for separation and depth as it has sections where the voices are seemingly coming from behind you.


As owners of these speakers probably already know I was not disappointed. They were at least as good to me as my current speakers which are active WCW's with B&C coax's and 2 Eminence 12" woofers.


Just for full disclosure tho, whether fortunately or unfortunately I cannot tell much difference in sound quality with speakers at this level. They sound different but not necessarily one better than the other. I have had JTR T8's, Danley SH-50's and 4-5 various active DIY designs including the 4pi, moderately priced ribbons and the DNA 360. I have NOT had the expensive coax in the JTR 212 which I would love to hear before I make a final decision or a high end ribbon. Also have not heard Seaton Cats which I would love to hear also. End disclosure.


Bottom line...these sound fantastic to me.


Will be using it in my HT for about 2 weeks before I deliver/install them for him so I will also get a few movies in as well.


Moto
Try crossing them at 80hz. Just curious how you'll feel about them there.

Also please check back in with more time listening to them. For me, the more I throw at them the happier I become. Once your ears adjust I would love your feedback.
Augmont's Avatar Augmont 08:55 AM 07-28-2014
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The one I built today is 54" tall which puts the waveguide at about 38"
Mine are 53" tall and the wave guide 39" i believe - I'm at work and going off memory. I had to use a hand dolly to move them around as they are HEEEAVY!!
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niktak11's Avatar niktak11 09:40 AM 07-28-2014
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Mine are 53" tall and the wave guide 39" i believe - I'm at work and going off memory. I had to use a hand dolly to move them around as they are HEEEAVY!!
The one I finished has ~40lbs of sand in the bottom chamber. Did you use sand too?
sslv2pwned's Avatar sslv2pwned 10:20 AM 07-28-2014
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Mine are 53" tall and the wave guide 39" i believe - I'm at work and going off memory. I had to use a hand dolly to move them around as they are HEEEAVY!!
Awesome!
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 12:39 PM 07-28-2014
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We need some more Photoshop skillz for the Elusive 1099. Must fit the Elusive theme......or at least be funny.

We have Mr. Bigfoot:



And the good ole Oompa Loompas:



If you aren't good at Photoshop, at least give us some ideas!


Also, any decent photos of the completed speaker could be posted as well, or used in the Photo-chops.
I have it on good authority Big Foot has landed and there are only 6 left. Ask me how I know
Boxozaxu's Avatar Boxozaxu 12:42 PM 07-28-2014
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The one I finished has ~40lbs of sand in the bottom chamber. Did you use sand too?
I want to build towers also but I'm concerned about the stability. I'm thinking of possibly widening the base to increase their stability. Did the 40lbs of sand in the bottom chamber really help? When you try and push them over, do they want to topple over? I'm worried about kids running into them.
chalugadp's Avatar chalugadp 12:42 PM 07-28-2014
there in stock and I got my CC. Whoooooooooooooooooo
mbyrnes's Avatar mbyrnes 12:47 PM 07-28-2014
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I have it on good authority Big Foot has landed and there are only 6 left. Ask me how I know
You got some! Yeah!
mbyrnes's Avatar mbyrnes 12:48 PM 07-28-2014
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there in stock and I got my CC. Whoooooooooooooooooo
That's great you got them. You're a big influence around here and you deserve them. If you thought they were good at the gtg, wait til you play music that you know inside and out!
chalugadp's Avatar chalugadp 12:49 PM 07-28-2014
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You got some! Yeah!
Going to start building the box tomorrow. Curved build. This is my veneer I like

Paduak.
mbyrnes's Avatar mbyrnes 12:51 PM 07-28-2014
Do fellow wood shop teachers proud, and fellow 1099 owners without your skill! Lol. Get your thread going, can't wait!
mbyrnes's Avatar mbyrnes 12:53 PM 07-28-2014
Oh by the way, been listening to mine for 6+ hours today, probably causing serious hearing damage the whole time. They sound so good really loud. I can't help it!
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 12:54 PM 07-28-2014
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there in stock and I got my CC. Whoooooooooooooooooo
way to go
chalugadp's Avatar chalugadp 12:55 PM 07-28-2014
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Do fellow wood shop teachers proud, and fellow 1099 owners without your skill! Lol. Get your thread going, can't wait!
I will try my best [emoji33]
mbyrnes's Avatar mbyrnes 12:57 PM 07-28-2014
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I will try my best [emoji33]
No worries on my end, except after seeing yours I'll be very jealous of the finish. Dtsdig has a great build as well. Someday I'll build boxes as nice, someday!
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 01:01 PM 07-28-2014
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The one I built today is 54" tall which puts the waveguide at about 38"
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Mine are 53" tall and the wave guide 39" i believe - I'm at work and going off memory. I had to use a hand dolly to move them around as they are HEEEAVY!!
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The one I finished has ~40lbs of sand in the bottom chamber. Did you use sand too?
That is the question I am asking over here Bills Elusive 1099 build (if I can nab 3) mine will have to be 62" tall to get everything above the screen frame. I was thing of building 3 cubes the size of the marty and I can always turn them into subs at some point.
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 01:14 PM 07-28-2014
I have another question I wanted to start on my cabinets this weekend can someonewith a flat pack please measure from the top and bottom of the rear panel andtell me where the Mid dividers go?
tuxedocivic's Avatar tuxedocivic 01:23 PM 07-28-2014
The mid dividers can only go in one place, and that is dictated by the front baffle, not the rear...

Donny, right on man. Can't wait to see what you do with them I guess the pay cut on the strike couldn't keep you from dreaming about what you heard at the GTG eh! Now I have a tangeable reason for the teacher to get back to work: to see your build get done!
chalugadp's Avatar chalugadp 01:28 PM 07-28-2014
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The mid dividers can only go in one place, and that is dictated by the front baffle, not the rear...

Donny, right on man. Can't wait to see what you do with them I guess the pay cut on the strike couldn't keep you from dreaming about what you heard at the GTG eh! Now I have a tangeable reason for the teacher to get back to work: to see your build get done!
A couple sub orders paid for it. I'm starting tomorrow at home. Just curving the top a bit from front to back. Doing the whole build on my deck. Just skillsaw, jigsaw, router. Will have the box ready for baffle. Will express the xo parts to you when I get them . can you pm me your mailing address.

I wanted to get three today but common sense kicked in [emoji16]
sslv2pwned's Avatar sslv2pwned 01:34 PM 07-28-2014
I am so glad I subscribed to this thread again. Otherwise, I would have missed my chance.

Three 1099's on the way!!! I am so excited!!!
chalugadp's Avatar chalugadp 01:36 PM 07-28-2014
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I am so glad I subscribed to this thread again. Otherwise, I would have missed my chance.

Three 1099's on the way!!! I am so excited!!!
Me too bro.
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 01:37 PM 07-28-2014
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The mid dividers can only go in one place, and that is dictated by the front baffle, not the rear...
yes I know that but if someone got the flat pack wouldn't the measerment for the dado for the dividers be the best location to use?
cw5billwade's Avatar cw5billwade 01:39 PM 07-28-2014
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I am so glad I subscribed to this thread again. Otherwise, I would have missed my chance.

Three 1099's on the way!!! I am so excited!!!
That makes 5 left good catch
sslv2pwned's Avatar sslv2pwned 01:53 PM 07-28-2014
Which terminal cup is everyone using on these? I thought about using speakons. I love how they lock but are easy to remove if needed.
chalugadp's Avatar chalugadp 02:06 PM 07-28-2014
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Which terminal cup is everyone using on these? I thought about using speakons. I love how they lock but are easy to remove if needed.
I just use binding posts. Two quick hole to drill and done. Looks clean and banana plug pops in.
sslv2pwned's Avatar sslv2pwned 02:24 PM 07-28-2014
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I just use binding posts. Two quick hole to drill and done. Looks clean and banana plug pops in.
Which do you use? Something like these: http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-...gold--091-1245
Bassment's Avatar Bassment 02:46 PM 07-28-2014
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Which terminal cup is everyone using on these? I thought about using speakons. I love how they lock but are easy to remove if needed.
speakons are awesome, the best speaker connection I think. Like you said, they're secure, easy to hook-up and super easy to remove.
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