Originally Posted by tuxedocivic
You didn't mention that to me. I thought we were trying to make center channels for people and wanted to showcase the SEOS 10. You kept pushing for horizontal MTMs and I wouldn't do it
I even recall you saying people just aren't that picky, just data freaks like that tux guy
I will mention the side by side mids wasn't my idea. That started with Bill W and his Malcolm I believe. That was a well thought out design concept with the shaded capacitors. Very elegant design.
I don't mention every idea to everyone......you guys would eventually put me on the ignore list.
You get a percentage to make fun of, Bill does, Matt does, Jeff does, etc. Trust me, if there's a way to draw a speaker, especially using the waveguides, it's been done in every possible layout one can imagine.
Sometimes I get 'that won't work', or 'hey, that might work, let's try it'. If I stopped after "that's just plain stupid", things wouldn't be very exciting!
Center channels were certainly the biggest concern and I was trying to figure out what to do without understanding the physics involved. After you explained why horizontal MTM's with big woofers wouldn't work and the crossover frequency needed, it was back to the drawing board. All the discussions help lead to different ideas. When you explained the woofers were too big, I drew smaller woofers, which eventually led to the Quad 4. Then we started talking about the 3 ways. I was just hoping to stay away from those for a while due to costs.
Bwaslo was at the shop about 2 years ago when we were discussing using dual sealed back midranges under the SEOS-12 flanked by 12" woofers ("1299" style). I cut the baffles, sent a photo to Jeff letting him know how nuts things could be.
But as mentioned he had just finished the Fusion-12 and Alpha-12, so it was put on hold. Truth be told, Jeff probably just thought I was nuts!
Actually, I think MTG90 takes the cake on the dual woofers under the waveguide because he had one done before the plastic SEOS was even here. I think they used Peerless 6.5" woofers. Bwaslo had the 4 smaller mids idea and it was really good, but the crossover cost twice as much as all the mids combined and the price would have been more than the Tempest.....meaning no one back then would have built it.