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Hi,
This is build of the Creative Sound SDX10 sub build with a 10 inch with XBL2 tech. I changed the shape but the internal volume remains the same as specified in the instructions. 3 sides are double 3/4 plywood and the drivers are flush mounted. The finish is 2k primer with a base/clear finish done in Black Sapphire. I didn't take pics of the wood being cut , nothing much to see there. LOL Next couple of days I will put it together and then post final pics.













First Coat of primer


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2 passives and woofer , the washers in the middle set the tuning frequency of the passive's

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Looks great! I've always liked that CCS build. I built one for a friend but didn't get to really try it out, he loves it though.

Blasting brown notes for 10 years and counting!

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Wow! Great job!
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Wow you got that done over the weekend? Awesome job!
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Looks great! I've always liked that CCS build. I built one for a friend but didn't get to really try it out, he loves it though.

Thanks N8 . Its a great kit, I really like it. I find it works great for movies and music as well. It gets really low. This is the second one I have built, I am redoing the first one since I didn't flush mount the woofers and I will add some bracing.

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Wow you got that done over the weekend? Awesome job!

3 day weekend for me ,my boss hates works as much as I do LOL. I cut the wood Thursday night ,took an hour. Friday I glued it up and did the bracing and the routing , Saturday only half day , routed the corners and sanded and filled and then sprayed it sunday( today) Spraying takes forever. 4 coats of primer filler, 15 mins between coatsand then 3 hours to dry, 3 coats of color 15 mins between coats , Then 3 Coats of clear, 20 mins to flash between coats. Just have to color sand and buff.

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Hi,

That's great quick work! Got your private email and will respond to that shortly.

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WOW! Beautiful, and only 3 days eek.gif There's like 5 months of work there for me biggrin.gif
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WOW! Beautiful, and only 3 days eek.gif There's like 5 months of work there for me biggrin.gif

Back when I was a kid they called me normal boy, today it's A.D.H.D lol. im kinda hardcore when i get started.
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Nice build eek.gif
Did you get it going?
How does it sound in your room?

PIC's !
More pic's !!!


I am building a few more other designs that CSS will use with the designs planned for those who would like to use the Parts Express premade sub cabinets.




Great job so far.!
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I am currently letting the clear harden up so I can sand and polish. In the meantime I am working on the first cabinet I built which is identical except the woofers were not flush mounted so I am sorting that out. I am almost done with that, then I will complete the sanding and hopefully spray this weekend ,god and the weather willing. biggrin.gif I prefer spraying outdoor ,the light is so much better and things move faster in the sun. I ordered my second sub kit today so I will have 2 identical subs in a 14x 12 living room. I had the first one in my bedroom for a about 8 months and it was overkill but it has nice tight bass for music and can shake the foundations when I watch movies. I will update soon.

Here are some of the box since I resprayed last nite. I tried to fix a run too soon and ended up re-spraying color on the front and top and then 2 more coats of clear. It was finally sunny today and I put it out for about 3 hours then the clouds came back.






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Nice build eek.gif
Did you get it going?
How does it sound in your room?

PIC's !
More pic's !!!


I am building a few more other designs that CSS will use with the designs planned for those who would like to use the Parts Express premade sub cabinets.




Great job so far.!

Did you build all those yourself??
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Nice build! Can you elaborate a little more on the cabinet finishing process? What did you spray them with? Perhaps something like a Wagnor or did you use an automotive spray gun, and if so, which brand/model did you use?

I am looking for a decent automotive spray gun so that I can paint the trim and bumpers on my Ford Explorer. I will also be using it for painting the subwoofer cabinets that I built a couple of weeks ago. Any suggestions for something under $200
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Nice build! Can you elaborate a little more on the cabinet finishing process? What did you spray them with? Perhaps something like a Wagnor or did you use an automotive spray gun, and if so, which brand/model did you use?

I am looking for a decent automotive spray gun so that I can paint the trim and bumpers on my Ford Explorer. I will also be using it for painting the subwoofer cabinets that I built a couple of weeks ago. Any suggestions for something under $200

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The paint I used is an automotive finish system by DuPont. It is their budget line though its still pretty expensive.The final sanding stage on the mdf was with 400 grit paper. I then applied 3 coats of Nason 2k filler primer, after it dried it was wet sanded with 400 grit wet/or dry sand paper. Next I sprayed 3 coats of base color followed by 5 coats of spot panel clear coat.The guns I used were Devilbiss HVLP, it is a set I got off ebay for about 150.00. They are called Startingline and come in a blow mold case with 2 guns and 3 tips. They work quite decent. Its a steep learning curve,i would suggest plenty of research and then do some practice on something other than your main project. You will need a serious compressor, the HVLP uses a lot of air. I have 100 gallon 2 piston upright and it comes on quite a lot during the spray process,so keep that in mind.

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HEY....I NEED SOME BUIDILD SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH the CSS SDX 10 SUBWOOFER.

I WILL USE JUST ONE PASSIVE RADIATOR PER TOWER. CAN ANYONE HELP ME CHOSE BETWEEN THESE TWO DRIVERS?[IMG]

OR IS BETTER THIS ONE:
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I WILL BE USING IT .....USING THIS TOWERS BELOW...THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE ONLY 2 ft 3 net internal volume.

Can anyone do simulations with these passive radiators?? Thanks in advance.





Here another shot.

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FOR THOSE CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MY BABIES SOUND....HERE A YOUTUBE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCHb3p6wgUI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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MY EMAIL IS GIO107@msn.com

Any help is greatly appreciated.


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Did you build all those yourself??

Yup all but the MLTL.
That is nothing for me smile.gif Normally see 15-20 sets a year wink.gif
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Yup all but the MLTL.
That is nothing for me smile.gif Normally see 15-20 sets a year wink.gif

Wow, too ambitious for me. This is strictly for sanity purposes, I already have more equipment than my little house can hold . biggrin.gif though I am building a set of Seas Thor using the fat thor dimensions.

Heres a few pics of the finished sub. One more sub box to finish painting and clear coating ,if the weather ever co-operates ( wont spray again on humid cool days ,it compromises the outcome ). We watched Bad Boys last night on BD , it has great LFE . I have tenant in the basement so I have to go easy with the bass. This sub sounds amazing and im sure I could piss off neighbors that live up t he street. biggrin.gif Totally happy with this build. I am current using it along with an 8 inch Yamaha until I get the other one finished. 2 of these should be off the hook.

This thing is stupid heavy and i don't feel like carrying it outside. Hard to get good pics indoors, for me at least cause the only thing i know how to use is the auto setting LOL.










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I totally missed the blue. Very nice finish!
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I was granted sunshine this afternoon. 28c to be exact. I set up and spray my second sub box, all the while im patrolling for bugs etc with my air hose in hand. All is well, i spray out the last bit of clear on my final coat and briefly go into the shop to clean my gun. Well i come out and theres a GOD DAMN BUG draggin its sticky ass self across my wet clear coat ARGHHH. Cue sand paper and spray bottle.


Bug tracks

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Ghetto Fan blowin away bugs
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I have been there before. Damn those bugs!
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Nice looking and keep the bug spray handy smile.gif

I work hand in hand with Bob from CSS .As of late designed the VX.1,VX.2, plus the new WR.30 speaker kits add in the Spires, Super Spires from a few years back.

In the last few months I have tested parameters on the SDX12. 12 of them at one time along with every LD25X tweeter a few hundred of them.I just finished a new 3 way tower which will use the Motus woofer in a TL design tuned to 27hz.

Working on a new tweeter right which will come in 2 different models.Bob is here every other week which normally is a listening time frame on new designs, driver changes we are working on.Or may be a new woofer, tweeter, tweeters in the works.Just to name a few jobs on the go for CSS.Throw in a few sub woofer designs building them then testing:)
If not one of the above I am doing measurements with Praxis, WT2, Sound Easy to show Bob the changes models,changes in new crossovers ,AMP changes ect. Nothing for me

Heads up Bob and I go back several years in business we have shared display rooms at RMAF in Denver for several years plus CES with Dan Wiggins.

Just a sample of some work I have done in the past.
No longer doing kits and or my own line of speakers HT2, HT2i, HT3, HT3i ,HT8, HT8i , OB2x,OB3X,RA8,RA6,RAV1,RAV6,Apex II,Apex III, Apex LCR and several line arrays Lambda , Lambda plus Omega, and last Omega Grand.All of these used CSS WR125s, WR125ST,FR125S plus the Extremis and then the SDX7 woofers




There is not to much I have not done with a XBL driver

Nice build and good to see the DIY at work showing the pro in all the hard work which one can do.
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Nice work. Looks great. And glad you're enjoying it. Two will really put a smile on your face.

Is this thread about your awesome sub build, or about all the designs people have done unrelated to your sub build, I can't tell frown.gif
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i thought it looked sweet just "primed for paint"...

...then i saw the paintjob. nice.

(how did you fix the mess that bug made btw?)

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How much weight did you add to the PR's when you assembled them?
Interested in what over all weight was used in the design?

Nice work again wink.gif
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i thought it looked sweet just "primed for paint"...

...then i saw the paintjob. nice.

(how did you fix the mess that bug made btw?)

I am bad, I should have taken pictures. To fix the bug track I outlined it with painters tape and then covered the rest of the box and sprayed on 3 coats of clear mixed with extra activator to help melt into the existing clear. Let it dry overnight and then verwy verwy carefwully sanded down the build up clear until it was flush with the existing clear using 400 wet/dry. then finished with 2000 grit. Just have to polish the box now.


As for the weights I used whatever was specified in the instructions and liked how it sounded so I have not done anything else with it.

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Here is subject #2 all shined up and ready for the cutouts to be painted black and the parts put in.




Here is where the bug was. Came out about 90% no biggy its on the back.biggrin.gif


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REALLY nice work. if you don't mind sharing your technique, folks would love to know what it takes to get this kind of quality. the roundover looks pretty aggressive, but maybe its just an illusion. what size bit did you put on that?

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