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1+/2+ , not 1+/2-

the signals won't combine, yes top to mono, bottom to bridge. Mono mode just makes it so both channels get the corresponding signal on the 1+/1- output, where as running it in stereo gives the one signal to 1+/1- on amp A and the other one to 2+/2- on amp B.

Got it. Thank you!!

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Also mono should allow for different impedance load on the channels vs stereo which requires identical load.

So for example on dual mono you could run a 4ohm speaker on A and an 8ohm speaker on B.

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My inuke NU-4 6000 when I turn it on, all the channels light up except for channel B. What does this mean?
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Read through most of this thread. I was looking for a less expensive alternative to the XPA-3. The speakers I want to upgrade to (rf-7 rc 64II) I called klipsch and they said to give the speakers 200rms each. With that 4th channel I could run a Si 18 all for under $350. Not sure I can argue with that price point.

Curious though, I turn my receiver up to -10 and its very loud to my ears. Would adding all this additional power make it clearer at that volume. I dont think I would need more than what I currently have to be honest. My rooms 3,377 cubic feet.

Also, I dont have a rack for my current 3000dsp, could I stack the NU4-6000 on top of it without any heating issue?
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Also, I dont have a rack for my current 3000dsp, could I stack the NU4-6000 on top of it without any heating issue?
You don't have to worry about stacking and heat. These are force-cooled amps that are intended for use in hot, rack-mount environments.
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So before I pull the trigger on this amp as it seems to be the best deal around for a 3 channel. How would I set it up? I never used an external amp for my speakers before. Do I hook it up with the pre-outs like I would my sub and if so what volume did you guys leave yours at when you do room calibration. I have a denon x4000 avr.
Also, is each of the 4 channels different. So I could run LR in stereo, my center and then a sub of the 4th.

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I am using my NU4-6000 that way...L,R,C and a sub. Yes, use the pre-outs on the Denon and note that the iNuke doesn't accept RCA. I used the internal test tone on my AVR to set the input gain on the iNuke to produce 75dB at my LP...IIRC, the input sensitivity is different from inputs A & C and B & D on the iNuke and you will need a Speakon connection for the output side to your speakers.
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I am using my NU4-6000 that way...L,R,C and a sub. Yes, use the pre-outs on the Denon and note that the iNuke doesn't accept RCA. I used the internal test tone on my AVR to set the input gain on the iNuke to produce 75dB at my LP...IIRC, the input sensitivity is different from inputs A & C and B & D on the iNuke and you will need a Speakon connection for the output side to your speakers.
That sounds excellent.

Hers my shopping list.
Fan x2 (its what I used in my 3000dsp)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
(using this cable just for the speakon connectors, its cheaper than buying them individually and I have an extra one already)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
XLR Male to RCA Male
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
nu4 $350
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Total of $403.05. I dont think I could find a much better deal for a 3 channel amp for my fronts and an extra channel for a third sub.
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Perfect lemonslush...

I agree on the value...check back in with your thoughts!
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I bought the NU4 6000. I'm looking to use it in a L/C/R mode using a Onkyo SR 805 A/V Receiver's preouts. I assume from reading that all of these amps fans are loud in a HT setting. If need be I'll get 2 Dynex 80mm cooling fans from BB for $5 bucks a piece. Can I use the Behringer amp on a 120V 15 amp circuit ? I have a SVS PB10 sub so will it be worth adding the amp to it ? If so, what cable I think I have 2 sub outs on the Onkyo 805. Both for powered subs. My main speakers are Dahlquist 20i's which love power at least 300 watts per channel in 4ohms. My center channel is a 8 ohm Klipsch klf-c7 that can handle 600 watts max. Above I read that XLR Male to RCA Male cables are what is needed to run from receiver preout to the amp. Would I need 3 mono cables, 1 for each channel. And, where does the Speakon adapters fit in ? Are they needed just for a sub connection ? If so, please explain how. What about ART CLEANbox ? Or, Furman power conditioners. Are they helpful ? I'm new to this type of setup, and want to do it right, so feedback is highly welcome. Thank You.


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Perfect lemonslush...

I agree on the value...check back in with your thoughts!
Got the amp hooked up. I have my av set to +5 and the inuke turned to about half way. I am herring the buzz noise in the speaker. I removed the ground from the plug. Going through the sub I here no noise. Only when I am in the speakers?

Any idea how to get ride of that.
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^^

I have negative trim values in my AVR for the L/C/R speakers and the gains on the amp are at the 2 o'clock & 3 o'clock position...the speakers and sub are dead quite. I lifted the ground on the iNuke as well. I would start looking at the other A/V equipment hooked up to your AVR and see if they are causing the problem as well as looking at each one of the XLR male to RCA male cables.
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I think i will try out one of these when the price drops to 300.00. This will probably happen in five years or so, when everyone has to replace their dead behringer Inuke amps, creating more volume and better prices.

A Good amplifier requires a adequate power supply, It does not matter what the amplifier is capable of if the power supply will not provide the power required. Most amplifiers have under rated power supplies. It is up to you to make sure you get the ones that are
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The damping factor of this amp is quite low, anyone has compare it with commercial amps such as Marantz & Emotiva amp?
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I think i will try out one of these when the price drops to 300.00. This will probably happen in five years or so, when everyone has to replace their dead behringer Inuke amps, creating more volume and better prices.
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I think i will try out one of these when the price drops to 300.00. This will probably happen in five years or so, when everyone has to replace their dead behringer Inuke amps, creating more volume and better prices.
Then U can sell your overpriced blue angels
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lol, does anyone actually LISTEN to JohnPlayerson or does everyone else do what I do and just skip the post the minute I see the avatar
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I use preouts from my Pioneer Elite to the external amp. If the ext. amp has a volume/gain adjustment, turn it all the way up. If the amp does not, you are good. Connect the sub/s up to the avr and run autocalibration. Two hundred watt ext. amps should set the gain in the avr to negative numbers.

I have a Klipsch RF 7 HT in a 53-5600 cu ft. basement and all the speakers are in negative numbers. The only thing with basement is that you loose around 10 db. on the overall subwoofer output compared to an upstairs location.
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lol, does anyone actually LISTEN to JohnPlayerson or does everyone else do what I do and just skip the post the minute I see the avatar
For those that like behringer and Class D, You need to be further back like me. Then at least you will have something to actually say, rather then just try and put down others, with your words. This goes for everyone else also. So LOL LOL LOL.

Take your 10 lb plastic and metal case, with your 1 lb circuit board, and fork over your cash to behringer.
Nothing like making a fortune off people, with amplifiers costing 20 bucks to build. I really do not think the future of high quality audio, is going to be enhanced by behringer or the customers it attracts. There customers are certainly not audiophiles, but mostly newbies, just looking for a first crack at higher power, on the total cheap!!.

Better off with an ep4000 if you must have behringer.

Wormwraper next time just skip the post like you say you do, and do not bother with your antagonist attitude. Over 4000 posts here by you, and all of them are just like the one you just made here. Much like everyone else with huge post counts, all seem to be saying nothing, or just defamatory comments.

A Good amplifier requires a adequate power supply, It does not matter what the amplifier is capable of if the power supply will not provide the power required. Most amplifiers have under rated power supplies. It is up to you to make sure you get the ones that are
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For those that like behringer and Class D, You need to be further back like me. Then at least you will have something to actually say, rather then just try and put down others, with your words. This goes for everyone else also. So LOL LOL LOL.

Take your 10 lb plastic and metal case, with your 1 lb circuit board, and fork over your cash to behringer.
Nothing like making a fortune off people, with amplifiers costing 20 bucks to build. I really do not think the future of high quality audio, is going to be enhanced by behringer or the customers it attracts. There customers are certainly not audiophiles, but mostly newbies, just looking for a first crack at higher power, on the total cheap!!.

Better off with an ep4000 if you must have behringer.

Wormwraper next time just skip the post like you say you do, and do not bother with your antagonist attitude. Over 4000 posts here by you, and all of them are just like the one you just made here. Much like everyone else with huge post counts, all seem to be saying nothing, or just defamatory comments.
damn, you must have spent a long time reading (actually not, since you just spouted out nonsense in your ENTIRE post)
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lol, does anyone actually LISTEN to JohnPlayerson or does everyone else do what I do and just skip the post the minute I see the avatar
He's the only member on my ignore list, for obvious reasons.
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The damping factor of this amp is quite low, anyone has compare it with commercial amps such as Marantz & Emotiva amp?
I have. And in my opinion the Inuke was inferior in sound quality. Bass always sounded loose with my subs and the high frequencies sounded a bit muffled with my speakers.

I love the amount of power the Inuke 6000 offers for the price but it's sound quality was not audiophile grade in my opinion. Always wondered if the low damping factor had something to do with the loose sounding bass.

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I have. And in my opinion the Inuke was inferior in sound quality. Bass always sounded loose with my subs and the high frequencies sounded a bit muffled with my speakers.

I love the amount of power the Inuke 6000 offers for the price but it's sound quality was not audiophile grade in my opinion. Always wondered if the low damping factor had something to do with the loose sounding bass.
Odd, i have an inuke 6000 dsp on my subs and there is extremely tight, accurate, detailed bass that is quick to the point and gone. Im not an expert but seems it could be a speaker to room issue more than anything. thoughts?

Oh yeah, you guys are funny acting you dont like each other.
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Odd, i have an inuke 6000 dsp on my subs and there is extremely tight, accurate, detailed bass that is quick to the point and gone. Im not an expert but seems it could be a speaker to room issue more than anything. thoughts?

Oh yeah, you guys are funny acting you dont like each other.
Haha. Some guys believe all amps sound the same so any abstract opinions given on sound quality will be met with sarcasm. I'm sure the room and any un corrected peaks/nulls will play a part in perceived sound quality. However I have not heard a class d amp yet with what I would consider great sound quality. Granted, I have only heard the cheap class d designs from Peavey and Behringer for under $1,000.
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Haha. Some guys believe all amps sound the same so any abstract opinions given on sound quality will be met with sarcasm. I'm sure the room and any un corrected peaks/nulls will play a part in perceived sound quality. However I have not heard a class d amp yet with what I would consider great sound quality. Granted, I have only heard the cheap class d designs from Peavey and Behringer for under $1,000.
I will agree that some amps sound different, especially noticable in mids up through the 20000 hz range. Ive had a hard time through the years being able to distinguish between different classes of amos dealing with bass.
It could be that I'm easily satisfied or not that picky anymore. Either way, does anyone have verifiable difference between the different amps that reveal themselves in more ways other than subjective results.

I also agree that different rooms can make the same speaker soind different. Beasts home theater is dead acoustically speaking and on a concrete slab, while my room is more alive with no treatments on a second story. I would imagine the same amos would sound different in each environment. Oh well, on with the show. this is one of those things that will never be settled.
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Quote: Speaker Jones, The gearpage . net.

Actually, as the story goes, Uli didn't have his prototype for the first Eurodesk ready for NAMM, so he too took a Mackie desk and silkscreened his own lettering on it to show at NAMM. He then copied the Mackie user manual, and even forgot to change the 800 number on it. No, they don't have any Mackie parts. They were built with the cheapest junk parts he could find.

He then proceeded to rip off the designs of several other companies, built knock-offs out of junk parts, with unskilled labor, and called them his own.

I've been working in pro audio for 16 years now, and I've seen hundreds of non-working Behringer units in installs and band PA's. I see them not working more than I've seen them working. In fact, if I'm called to troubleshoot an unfamiliar system, I check for Behringer gear as first possible mode of failure. It's crap. Disposable sound gear at it's worst. You're pretty much always better off buying a used piece of Peavey or Mackie gear for the same price.

No, you won't ever see a piece of Behringer gear in one of my PA systems or one of my guitar rigs. Nor that of any of my friends, if I can help it. Hell, I wouldn't even wish a piece of Behringer gear on my enemy's grandmother to call bingo numbers on.

Good luck with yours though.

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Prior experience with older equipment doesn't mean a damn thing unless you used this particular unit. The difference between the XPA-5 and this unit has been indistinguishable for me through my DIY setup.

Unless you can provide a chart showing a measurement of a non flat frequency response, or of a power test showing this unit can't provide the stated RMS power in a home theater setting, you have nothing but a predisposition or bias with no facts to the contrary to back it up.

Use a Class A amp, but use a crap DAC in the chain, and the Class D amp (with a good S/N ratio) using the HQ DAC setup will blow it away.
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I've bought a inuke nu4-6000 a few months ago and have been using it to power the LCR speakers on my home theater (I also have a ep4000 that powers my surrounds) and all I can say is that I'm in love with the nu4-6000! It has gobs of power, weights next to nothing, sounds great and is dirty cheap.

The only change I made in it was replacing the fans with a pair of noctuas. I can't hear the fans running even if my ears are just a inch from the front of the amp.

All in all, a fantastic buy!
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