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LOL, Ya I tell ya what it was hell. I smashed them up so bad that the doctors almost had to amputate them cause of so much tramua. I didn't walk again until I was 26. I learned alot from it like patience. It was actually what got me into Home Theater. I was a car audio guy doing the SPL thing at competitions but after I got laid up I naturally evolved to to HT being a lover of movies and all things audio. Especially after I bought my first house and got permition from the wife to dedicate a room downstairs and built a home cinema and not just a flat panel and HTIB like I started out with years ago. Became kind of a videophile too but audio is my favorite subject. MK looking foward to hearing about the SEOS's.
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Part of the reason I don't do much of the work was due to my double knee replacements. I just can't bend anymore and can't crawl around or lift heavy. It really sucks and I am partially disabled. Of course I can't take labels like that so I work 50 hours a week. Sometimes it takes its toll but I will never rollover!

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You young guys should take notice, hell getting old wink.gif Myself, I too have had my share of rebuilt shoulders, rebuilt knees, extremely painful. On top of that, the last few years been dealing with lymph node issues w/cardiac involvement, ... life goes on, this ain't no dress rehearsal!

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I loved MoS except bass was Avengers like.

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I loved MoS except bass was Avengers like.

Someone said MoS also has that 30hz cutoff that Avengers had. I felt the bass seemed deeper on it though.

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Someone said MoS also has that 30hz cutoff that Avengers had. I felt the bass seemed deeper on it though.

Same here. Maybe the filter didn't have as steep of slope or something?

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I loved both movies and the bass was so so. Seems like they were both mixed at the same place by the same person.

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Bass in MoS definitly seems to slam you more than Avengers. Also the mix to me seems to get louder towards the end.

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I will once I get a better camera again.

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Btw this IB kicks some serious arse! I watched Thor 2 in a RPX(I like IMAX better), my local cinema, and then MoS in my theater and even with the neutered bass my systems blows them away in every aspect! The baffle wall makes my system sound even bigger than before with the room shrinking. I have never posted a waterfall of my bass decay times but this IB is at least a 1/3 rd shorter!

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Btw this IB kicks some serious arse! I watched Thor 2 in a RPX(I like IMAX better), my local cinema, and then MoS in my theater and even with the neutered bass my systems blows them away in every aspect! The baffle wall makes my system sound even bigger than before with the room shrinking. I have never posted a waterfall of my bass decay times but this IB is at least a 1/3 rd shorter!
That's awesome man! Always nice to recalibrate your ears at a nice cinema. You get a chance to see a flick with Dolby Atmos yet? I was very impressed with he two movies I seen with it. Closest theater to me that has an Atmos setup is 4.5 hrs away in Kansas City at an AMC ETX. Both times worth the drive

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"Btw this IB kicks some serious arse!"

great to hear mk! you've got it all dialed in?

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I am not sure I have one around me, I will have to look it up. The RPX uses Klipsch speakers and the IMAX was much smoother and easier on the ears. My system is better than both. I know people always say that but at least I know mine has the output to match.

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No just running the auto EQ in my AVR for now until I get my new mic.

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Looking great MK!!!

How much does the wall flex, if any?

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I have not checked yet. I don't hear any noises or anything. My room is so dark and the wall is black which makes it worse to see it. The drivers don't move that much but they are black too. I will have to get a close up video. I am having Madaeel coming over to check it out. I bet he will get videos! I am liking this wall very much.

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The SEOS begins! Dry run took 60 seconds to put together!


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Just an idea for those that don't want to cut anything include cut holes and binding posts.

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Some people like binding posts, and some like terminal cups, so I don't predrill for those. I mention that on the flat pack pages with a link to the terminals if needed.


The easiest way to assemble the cabinets:

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Notice how he puts on one side, then the inner baffle, then taps the second side panel in place to seal up the cabinet. To me, that works the best. If you put both sides on first, it's not as easy to tap in that inner baffle without squishing the glue off the joints. But it would all work out in the end anyway.


I think Ryan designed those Delta Pure's to sound a bit more 'crisp' than some of the other models. When listening to them straight out for movies, voices really pop. But all of that was prior to any EQ from the receiver at all. I did turn the mids and highs down a bit with music though. I suppose that's all personal preference which is why some designers shoot for a flat response versus others purposely designing them to sound 'their way' right out of the box..
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I meant the terminal cups, maybe have an option to cut the proper square and insert the cup, done! I am almost done with all 3, finishing the wire on the last one and then wiring the drivers in. We are putting the two baffles on last and it goes in perfectly! I guess we did it right because everything lined up with precision! No problems at all, we were just caught off guard with the binding posts because I had to run to lowes and buy something. Used a drill bit and just glued them in to secure as they were not long enough to use the screw on the other end. I would have ordered your binding posts but I forgot they were extra. Anyways, the binding posts and wiring takes longer than putting the kits together and not by a little. Taking a pic soon when done.

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Nice sounds like a real quick build! I'm contemplating getting 3 Sentinals with flat packs and built crossovers myself.

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Just an idea for those that don't want to cut anything include cut holes and binding posts.

+1

Not that big of deal tho but a guy like me owns zero saws so I'd have to borrow or buy one.

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Well, using a drill and buying Erich's binding posts is simple enough, drill 1/4 hole, insert posts, done. I just had to run to lowes because I was not prepared but still worked out. I had to find a drill bit to fit and break the white square pieces on them and then glue them on the inside because they were not long enough to secure from the inside so it took a little longer than normal.

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Most people do order the binding posts or terminal cups with their order. If they don't, I usually send an email to be sure. But I figured you didn't order them because you probably had some laying around from past builds.

Some people put the kits right up to a wall, so binding posts might not be the best idea and they would need terminal cups. But some people like the look of binding posts. The problem is that I wrap the flat packs all at the same time and stack them on a pallet. So I'd have to unwrap them to drill holes, or the 2" circle for the cups. The other option would be to do 50% of each. But that's basically needing to stock twice as much product. I just assume that most DIY guys have access to a drill for binding posts. If someone asks me to cut those holes, I will do it.
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Yeah, I figured that. I did have some lying around but I could not find them for the life of me. Time to clean up some of the mess in the rack room.

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Well, here they are:

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Nice good work! Look great! Seem a little wider than a SHO-10.

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Well, using a drill and buying Erich's binding posts is simple enough, drill 1/4 hole, insert posts, done. I just had to run to lowes because I was not prepared but still worked out. I had to find a drill bit to fit and break the white square pieces on them and then glue them on the inside because they were not long enough to secure from the inside so it took a little longer than normal.

I see I do have couple nice drills. Sounds real easy!

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Probably a couple inches wider, ya. Is the sho-10 pretty much the woofer width plus a bit of baffle meat?
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This is 2 inches taller, 3 inches wider, and 1 inch deeper.

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