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Karma-10 2 14.29%
Karma-12 0 0%
Fusion-8 Alchemy 3 21.43%
Fusion-10 Pure 1 7.14%
Fusion-10 Max 1 7.14%
Alpha-8 Minion 4 28.57%
Other 3 21.43%
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post #1 of 18 Old 10-08-2013, 10:39 PM - Thread Starter
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Alright I currently have a poll going on which kit to go with for my fronts but I also need some help picking out the 2 surround speakers. It looks like the front speakers are either going to be the Tempest or the Deltalite 12 kit. I am leaning towards the Alpha-8 Minion but am wondering if a kit with the SEOS-12 would help in the room or if a kit with the DNA-350 would sound better since the fronts will have the DNA-360.

While it will be used for 90% movies and tv, we do at times linen to music in 7 channel stereo mode and I don't want them to sound completely different. The surrounds will be on speaker stands not mounted on the wall and they will only be about 3 feet from the listening position.

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I voted Karma-10 but that is subject to more info on how it actually performs. Right now data on that one is pretty slim but hopefully Erich and Bill can put out a little more info soon.... Seems like the best surround option to me.
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Bill and I finished up a high efficiency model with a dome tweeter last weekend. That could be used for surrounds as well.
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Bill and I finished up a high efficiency model with a dome tweeter last weekend. That could be used for surrounds as well.

Sometimes we crank up the music in all channel stereo mode. So wouldn't a CD and horn blend better? I could be wrong, I am just guessing.
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3 feet! Are you sure? That matters. If that's true, use something very small with a very low XO. Don't look at sensitivity or power handling as criteria. I wouldn't use anything on that list if you're 3 feet away.
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^3' LOL, I missed that..... eek.gif
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I sit about 3 feet away from 4x 8340's lol.... (technically only 2 hooked up). they get LOUD.
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3 feet! Are you sure? That matters. If that's true, use something very small with a very low XO. Don't look at sensitivity or power handling as criteria. I wouldn't use anything on that list if you're 3 feet away.

Dude, the SEOS's can produce SPL so high that it is painful to be within 20ft of them.
I found that being 12 feet away or more was most-ideal, or closer than 4ft tongue.gif, you don't want to be in the 5ft to 8ft range as the off-center spread is too low to cover more than 2 seats.
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3 feet! Are you sure? That matters. If that's true, use something very small with a very low XO. Don't look at sensitivity or power handling as criteria. I wouldn't use anything on that list if you're 3 feet away.

the Fusion 10 - Max i use as my surrounds are maybe 4 feet away. everything seems fine with that
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Why does the low crossover matter?
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If they get too loud I can mount them and get them about 10 feet away, but that will be max until we sell our house. Ultimately I would like to avoid mounting them since we are trying to sell.
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I use the one pi in a sealed enclosure for my surrounds. Its not a PERFECT tonal match with my Tempests but for a surround, it sounds pretty darn good. Some people may not like directional speakers for surrounds so a dome tweeter might be the way to go.

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What is happening inbetween thoose 3 and 10feet? Why cant they be furter away and still not mounted?
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I voted "other" by which I mean a coax, especially apropos at such a close listeneing distance.

I use B&C 8CX21's.

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Sibuna, its amazing what an extra foot can do at those small distances, and I've seen your setup and you're quite on axis. But still, that's really close. Your head must be in a vice to make sure you're not in a null. I didnt realize you were so close.

Ozziedog, the low XO point matters to make sure the nulls are spread out really wide and so the wavelengths are long where the drivers sum. It's not really about how loud it is, although it is going to be way over kill. I'm not sure how Sibuna keeps them from being over bearing. But he obviously does. He uses the Fusion Max for surrounds, which do have a low XO for that type of speaker.
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just measured its closer to 5 feet, and as i only have 1 couch and at more 3 seating positions in this silly space there really isnt a null left to right
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What is happening inbetween thoose 3 and 10feet? Why cant they be furter away and still not mounted?

It runs into a wall. The ten feet would be because of height.
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I re measured and it is just shy of 5 feet. Right now I currently have the A6.t from Elemental Designs there, would I be better leaving them in place until we move. I just ordered the Tempests for the Front so now I need to decide what to do with the surrounds.
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