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After 6 years of contemplating about it, I finally gone and done it!

Now I can finally directly compare my system to any SPL-comp system, and additionally, know that the numbers are precisely accurate within 0.1db, from 10hz and up, to an upper-limit of 183db eek.gif

Never have to worry about clipping the mic/input again or blaa-blaa-calibrate-blaa-blaa, this is the LAST mic I should ever NEED (or at least, I think it is? tongue.gif)



(A continuation from yester-year... http://www.avsforum.com/t/1461844/anyone-try-a-termlab-yet/)
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Well done, Mr. Gosling. smile.gif

You will of course post up pictures when it arrives.

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I'm curious to see what abilities/accuracy it "might" have below 120db compared to my CM-140 (which maxes out at 130db).

The cool thing about the Term-Lab is that it isn't influenced by wind-noise, direct sunlight, rain, heat/cold, shock or high G-forces.
It would be perfect for outdoor use where it is always problematic with windy conditions.

My speculation, is that it will be extremely difficult to break a REAL 125db, at the LP, in a room. (Guess we'll find out soon enough. smile.gif )

With correction values applied, my CM-140 says I do 123.5db continuous @ 40hz @ just under clipping; with 8 18's pumping with 27kW (burst-power) of bass.
If the CM-140 is some-what accurate.

That's with quad 99db/watt 18 kick-bins stacked and corner loaded, and quad Ultras on the side-walls; all sealed, cement floor, ~3000cubic feet.

I can't wait to see what REAL numbers my system as a whole can do; especially later in 2014 when I make it even more beefy.
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Wayne shipped it out today, so I can't see why it shouldn't be here by Friday or sooner.

Tracker say's it's in NV.
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I've been wanting to get a TL to play with for a while. Mainly I want to see whether some of the claims are true and how it reacts under various conditions. My CM-140 was highly inaccurate below 200Hz and measured very low. I would guess that the TL will report substantially higher results than the CM-140.

Where are you located anyway?
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I've been wanting to get a TL to play with for a while. Mainly I want to see whether some of the claims are true and how it reacts under various conditions. My CM-140 was highly inaccurate below 200Hz and measured very low. I would guess that the TL will report substantially higher results than the CM-140.

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Where are you located anyway?

I live between the NW Cascades & Rockies mountain range, just a few hours drive east from the Pacific ocean.

About 1800 miles north-west of KY

Right over by those blue mountains (thanks streetview tongue.gif )



I don't want to be more specific than that, otherwise I might get jacked (they'd just look for the loudest house, right? biggrin.gif )

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This is why North Koreans will NEVER be able to nuke us, simply because they underestimate the amount of EMPTY flipping space up in this bia, they might get a lot of us, but they won't get us all, even after launching 100 nukes at us randomly or specifically.
Heck, they could drop a hiroshima right where this car was and I'd barely read a 140db in my theater. haha!!! biggrin.gif
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Well THANKS for reminding me that I live in prime nuking country. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
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Based on the shadow at the bottom of that street view image, the only thing I can conclude is: aliens.

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Well it won't be here tomorrow that's for sure, they flew it in the wrong direction. LOL

Guess there was no connecting flights or whatnot.
Since it's by air it might be here by thursday.

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It just left Chicago, the thing is flying at alien-speed! Go package, go!



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I've been using my term lab for years. I've got the dual sensor version. How do you think I know I can hit 140dB's at 10hz smile.gif
I actually won it in my 2nd last spl comp in my car days (like 7 years ago lol)

Blasting brown notes for 10 years and counting!

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Don't most people find 140db+ painful at all frequencies? I read that somewhere. (Most people, haha biggrin.gif)

So you are basically telling me there is a distinct-possibility I've been severely damaging my hearing for 5-10 years now with 120db(or higher) bass, thinking it was MUCH lower than my meter has been telling me about? YIKES! eek.gif



Update: They haven't updated the tracking all day (must be a busy time of year tongue.gif), no idea where it might be, could be just 5 miles away or 1700.
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Bass> Don't most people find 140db+ painful at all frequencies? I read that somewhere. (Most people, smile.gif

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A TL is on my list to buy on down the road as well. Nice present! I don't find 140 to be painful. My old car would do 144.7 with the windows up and the TL on the window. I know that isn't much for the average competitor, but I could maintain that score from 80 down to 30 where it fell off. I have no frame of reference for ~15Hz @ 140db though. I look forward to seeing what all that firepower can do on that mic! smile.gif
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Don't most people find 140db+ painful at all frequencies? I read that somewhere. (Most people, haha biggrin.gif)

So you are basically telling me there is a distinct-possibility I've been severely damaging my hearing for 5-10 years now with 120db(or higher) bass, thinking it was MUCH lower than my meter has been telling me about? YIKES! eek.gif



Update: They haven't updated the tracking all day (must be a busy time of year tongue.gif), no idea where it might be, could be just 5 miles away or 1700.

Not for me. After a while it makes you feel sick for sure but The only pain is to the house lol I find 30hz and up over 130dB gets old quick. My hearing is still top notch. I get it tested all the time at work.

Blasting brown notes for 10 years and counting!

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It's looking more and more like Monday; unless a miracle happens in the next 22 hours. Damn, I was looking forward to messing with it this weekend!
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No Show. I think aliens abducted my TL, or maybe the entire 747 it was on.
I even checked my mailbox and email to make sure it wasn't my fault.
3 days with no tracker update. At this rate it's looking like tuesday... must be lost in a sea of 300 million Christmas letters and gifts.
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I wonder what kinds of dastardly things they are doing with your TL right now?


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They finally updated the tracker, it just left Chicago now. LOL

something something... probes and holes... something something.
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It just left Seattle, it should be here tomorrow or the next day.

The thing has been to hell, through hell, and back.

Kimmy tried to fly his planes over here, but 99% ran out of fuel crossing the pacific ocean and drown. The remaining 1% made it to the coast and shot at my term-lab airplane as it happened to be passing through the region, the remainder of their fuel was frozen solid by the -1 million degree windchill-factor, and they crashed right here->


They knew they had to get out of there to survive so they went down and then up the next peak and saw this, at this point they realized it was a futile effort.->


Overheated, tired and hungry they stripped naked and ate each other alive (1993-Alive-style), the last man standing was then abducted by aliens;
the aliens then used my Term-Lab as a probe on him, they then dumped him and my Term-Lab near the outer limits of Seattle, as he reached the first row of houses he was hit in the back of the head by the side of a 9mm that an old grannie was sporting in her handbag.

NOT A SINGLE NUKE WAS DETONATED THAT DAY (Sorry Kimmy tongue.gif )
and the old lady was kind enough to mail me my Term-Lab the remaining distance.

That's the official story, and I'm sticking to it! biggrin.gif

Don't mind me I'm just bored and suffering from cabin fever. That's the latest status update from Overlook Hotel...

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LOL.. but then the next day sitting in my theater she all blew! eek.gif


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I installed vmware10 last night, good news. I can finally run my line-out Loop-back RTA software on it, unlike version 8 and older.
Looks like they finally improved the VM sound device drivers.

I haven't been able to get that to work since I upgraded to Windows 7 a few years ago. SWEET!!!! (Takes the guess work out of the equation.)




BTW, the Term-Lab is still not here yet; and it looks like I will have to drive 10 miles to town tomorrow in the snow and ice to go pick it up myself.

You can see the ice forming on my theater from last nights rainfall (and then it froze).



A nice orange sky, but the roads are in VERY BAD conditions right now. ( YAY biggrin.gif )
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IT IS HERE AT LAST!!!

Now let's see what she can DO!






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Here's my Term-Lab score. Meca Park and Pound style (as those rules are the closest DBDrag rules that compare to a Home Audio system's SPL configuration. We don't have no front window wink.gif )

6ft away and with 8 18's: Quad LMS-Ultra's and Quad Dayton 18's, powered by a few EP4000's, Crown ITech, Lab Gruppen clone. Not even max volume yet, 11db away from clipping. smile.gif



Damn, that was LOUD, it hurt my ears! (SWEET! tongue.gif)
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Check this out! If you put it into NASA-Mode, it goes to 3hz (or lower: that's the lowest I can do.)
I like this view a lot better, and will be running it this way from now on.



AWESOME DUDE!!! cool.gif
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Awesome. smile.gif

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Hmmm... NASA mode. Seems very appropriate. tongue.gif
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