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Old 02-05-2016, 01:43 PM
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Can someone explain to me why this many speakers and subwoofers are necessary?

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I kept building and eventually got to ported huge (really huge) 420lb subs with 4 TC Sounds LMS-Ultra 18" drivers. Modest is not in my system. Honestly, I think everything I've built in the past was a waste of money now that I know the dollar value of what I have now. I know $900 drivers may not fit 'value' statements but knowing that I'm done with building subs made them a bargain.
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Hello, total noob here. Been lurking for a while, researching for my home theater build. Can someone explain to me why this many speakers and subwoofers are necessary?
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Hello, total noob here. Been lurking for a while, researching for my home theater build. Can someone explain to me why this many speakers and subwoofers are necessary?

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That is because the OP is the real captainawesome

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I kept building and eventually got to ported huge (really huge) 420lb subs with 4 TC Sounds LMS-Ultra 18" drivers. Modest is not in my system. Honestly, I think everything I've built in the past was a waste of money now that I know the dollar value of what I have now. I know $900 drivers may not fit 'value' statements but knowing that I'm done with building subs made them a bargain.
I'm still waiting to see pics of this how's it going?
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Hi Rob.

I keep forgetting. I am trying to devise grills but that is proving to be the biggest engineering feat of the entire project.
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I keep forgetting. I am trying to devise grills but that is proving to be the biggest engineering feat of the entire project.
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Thanks for all the replys. I am no stranger to overkill, I'm a huge gearhead and strongly believe that you never have enough horsepower. I just wanted to make sure that's what it is. I see all these posts about peoples home theater builds, which are all amazing, and I kept seeing a common theme where people are using huge speakers with multiple drivers and multiple subwoofers. Its overwhelming for someone who is perfectly happy with the tiny little Def tech 5.1 system in their living room. I know there is a difference between a lot of sound and high volume, just not quite sure where the line is between the right amount and complete overkill.
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Thanks for all the replys. I am no stranger to overkill, I'm a huge gearhead and strongly believe that you never have enough horsepower. I just wanted to make sure that's what it is. I see all these posts about peoples home theater builds, which are all amazing, and I kept seeing a common theme where people are using huge speakers with multiple drivers and multiple subwoofers. Its overwhelming for someone who is perfectly happy with the tiny little Def tech 5.1 system in their living room. I know there is a difference between a lot of sound and high volume, just not quite sure where the line is between the right amount and complete overkill.
I used to doubt how much of a difference a subwoofer could make until I finally had a good one in my home. I'm in the process of putting in about 3x more subs. If you're perfectly happy, don't touch a thing. Ignorance is bliss.
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We need @lilmike to come with his "Tell my why you don't need moar bass" memes like...NOW! This is obviously the most appropriate thread for inappropriate bass comments.
Memes are so last year...

Besides, busy.

Got most of a house and no bass. This must be addressed.
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Thanks for all the replys. I am no stranger to overkill, I'm a huge gearhead and strongly believe that you never have enough horsepower. I just wanted to make sure that's what it is. I see all these posts about peoples home theater builds, which are all amazing, and I kept seeing a common theme where people are using huge speakers with multiple drivers and multiple subwoofers. Its overwhelming for someone who is perfectly happy with the tiny little Def tech 5.1 system in their living room. I know there is a difference between a lot of sound and high volume, just not quite sure where the line is between the right amount and complete overkill.
The right amount is that which will play at a volume you consider adequate with no stress, distortion, or breaking. Of course, headroom is essential to ensure there is no stress, distortion, or breaking. Some prefer higher listening volumes than others and no one agrees on what is adequate headroom.

Overkill is a moving target, what seemed overkill is often viewed in the rear view window as inadequate. As Beast said, it's a slippery slope that eventually leads most to big a$$ systems.

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Memes are so last year...

Besides, busy.

Got most of a house and no bass. This must be addressed.
OH yes..... Yes it does. Now enough with you! Go get back to work! You got something new for this house under your sleeve?
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hey is 14 awg speaker wire good enough for 4 hst-18. Im using a crest 9200 which has 2200 w @4ohm s. I already have it so wonder if I need to order 12 awg?
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Rob, I must have missed it but what are you using to apply the 14hz high pass filter? I'm strongly considering a half setup like yours but with different drivers (4 re xxx's) and just wanted to know what else besides the boxes I'd need. Thanks.
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Rob, I must have missed it but what are you using to apply the 14hz high pass filter? I'm strongly considering a half setup like yours but with different drivers (4 re xxx's) and just wanted to know what else besides the boxes I'd need. Thanks.
I have a minidsp 2x8. If you're running ported, the HST18 or Zv4 18s model better than the XXX18, though to be honest I'm not sure which one I modeled last as there are variations. I'd suggest modeling them all out first
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I have a minidsp 2x8. If you're running ported, the HST18 or Zv4 18s model better than the XXX18, though to be honest I'm not sure which one I modeled last as there are variations. I'd suggest modeling them all out first
Thank you Rob.
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I went to Rob place the other day to demo his Home Cinema and it was an Extraordinary experience, The sound quality is just out of this world, the level of detail is unlike anything i ever heard, the dynamics are instant, the extension is incredible, the force and pressure of the midbass is tremendous, i mean i don't even have enough words to describe how PERFECT the sound quality was, it was like heaven on earth lol, Rob cinema is one of the most exquisite audio experiences anybody can have, his system can pleasure the most discriminating audiophile, and i been to some High end Room like for example Steinway Lyngdorf, the room was 130,000$ worth in equipment and don't get me wrong it sounded really good but if i have to pick i'll pick Rob system because is simply more superior, also i Demo the JBL M2 professional monitor speakers and i have to say the Rob Mains 4722 sounded superior to me, the imaging was right in the center and i felt the performers were right in front of me, the separation the instruments were excellent and the vocals of the performers were super natural.

But the best and my favorite part was the BASS (UNREAL), i have DUAL SVS PB-13 ultras and they are little toys next to his 8 LMS ultra 18 woofers, the best Demo was the incredible Hulk the last scene when hulk fell from the helicopter and hit the ground to fight abomination, the bass had the most greater definition and accuracy i ever heard in my entitled life, the bass was effortless and way beyond any subwoofer i ever heard at any price point, is funny how some People say the JL gotham (12,000$) is the best subwoofer ever lol, well is beautiful don't get me wrong but it can't touch Rob bass department.

If you want to get the best Home Cinema experiences in your life you have to get in contact with Rob and ask him for a demo, it is a must for any HT enthusiasm to experiences this level of Performance at least once in a lifetime, because i don't think you ever get this kind of Performance and especially BASS in anywhere else.


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Thanks for all the replys. I am no stranger to overkill, I'm a huge gearhead and strongly believe that you never have enough horsepower. I just wanted to make sure that's what it is. I see all these posts about peoples home theater builds, which are all amazing, and I kept seeing a common theme where people are using huge speakers with multiple drivers and multiple subwoofers. Its overwhelming for someone who is perfectly happy with the tiny little Def tech 5.1 system in their living room. I know there is a difference between a lot of sound and high volume, just not quite sure where the line is between the right amount and complete overkill.
Think about the forces involved in a thunder storm, an earth quake or the launch of a cannon.

Hell, think about the surface area of a door slamming shut.

Want things to approximate something that sounds and feels like the real deal? You go as BIC as you can.

I like bass
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Think about the forces involved in a thunder storm, an earth quake or the launch of a cannon.

Hell, think about the surface area of a door slamming shut.

Want things to approximate something that sounds and feels like the real deal? You go as BIC as you can.





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