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That's a very good question the wife and I were just discussing that. We are very liberal with our kids and they have seen everything from resident evil two frozen. Walking dead on Sunday night is our family time to get together. LOL most of the kids that are here the parents requested rated E and below movies so maybe just frozen. We have some friends who won't even let their kids watch Lord of the rings or the Percy Jackson movies. To each his own.

Since I'm younger than most people in the thread...

Parents have no clue what their kids are seeing these days or the media available to kids. No matter how hard parents try to monitor media that children consume at the end of the day, kids are going to see graphic things constantly.

I was on a gaming forum and my cousin was here with her kid and she makes sure he NEVER sees anything remotely graphic. I'm talking like not even Disney channel because Disney can be a little "out there" to her.
I thought about it and was reading a thread about games we played as kids... I owned just about every violent game made on the N64. Not to mention the other consoles. Even though your parents can try to monitor media, they aren't going to keep up with the new forms of media that weren't out when they were kids.

It's probably why so many parents purchase Grand Theft Auto for the kids not realizing what the game really is.

No matter what, your kids are going to see violence/graphic things. Depends on the parenting approach you want to take. Being there to explain to your kids those things when they're young is probably a good thing. I don't think I ever got the "Sex" talk as a kid lol. Even after I decided to go to a top 5 party school.
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I agree. They will see stuff but it won't be while they are sitting next to me. That's the difference

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I agree. They will see stuff but it won't be while they are sitting next to me. That's the difference

I agree, I tell my son that sometimes he'll see people doing or watching things and just because they are doesn't make it okay.
My sons 6 and I'll let him what some scary stuff, well scary for a 6 year old like The Lord of the Rings series, Harry Potter. They're gonna see and hear all kinds of crap, you just need to do your part as a parent to make sure they know what's ok and what's now.
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We as parents we allow our son ( going on 12) to see whatever he wants with us accept pushing x rated. He has been watching and playing games since about 5 years old. Heck, he has had an xbox live account since then. But it's always under our supervision movies, shows, or games. When he was younger I had parental controls on game chat as that is worse than the game itself. As a father that games also it helps because we can be in the lobby together. Also while watching movies we can explain what's going on. We would rather teach him the right way instead of beating around the bush on real life items. Kids grow up so fast these days and I would rather they know the right answers from us than to find out partial answers from friends and classmates.
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Well if I had kids, I seriously doubt I would allow such graphic movies and shows like the walking dead at 10 years old. However, I wanted the alien series at 10 years old daily and I'm ok. I plan to raise my kids on star trek and star wars and I was raised, plus all the super hero movies. I dont think I would let them watch any R rated movie (that actually merits the rating) made in the last 8 years or so, but thats just me. I'm glad you're able to take control of your kids, if they're watching those movies and are acting crazy that must mean you can actually parent them. Unlike the majority of the American parents Hats off to ya biggrin.gif

Thanks Alpha, yes my kids know that if their behavior or attitudes change, everything goes away. We are strict parents in many other ways, we just do thing a little different than others and so far its worked great for us. My 14 year old is almost an Eagle Scout, he is away this weekend competing in state championships for TSA which is the Technology Student Association. He has straight A, plays football and made it state on both TSA, DECA and Knowledge bowl. He watch Jeepers Creepers with me when he was about 6 years old. I have my limits though, he wanted to watch the Wolf Of Wall Street and that was one he was not allowed to watch. Too much nudity and drugs.

My other 3 kids are 10, 8, 6. The 10 year old is scared of Walking Dead but likes to watch Bones with us, and Phsych and he is allowed to watch Percy Jackson, actually has read all 4 books. He has also read all the Harry Potter books. We have friends whos kids are not allowed to watch or read any of these books, not because they are scare but because they will give the kids a diiferent take on religion. Since magic and gods are not in their bible. We are Christian, but we are also aware that these are movies and fantasy. My kids are aware of that as well. Never has any of my kids tried to put a spell on us? They do believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa, which is odd because the same parents that don't let their kids watch the movies allow their kids to believe in these mythical beings?biggrin.gif

All my kids are have amazing grades, are in Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts in which I am both an Assistant Scout Master and the Committee Chair. and do have as many chores as other kids do. They are not allowed to mimic anything they hear or watch on tv and know better. I have no problem spanking my kids. I wont whip them or hit them with my belt, and my wife is always present when they get spanked to make sure neither of use abuse it. None of kids are allowed to Play GTA or any games where they actually kill humans. Only Zombies. Weird I know.

I think the main problem lies in the parents, if you let your kids do these things and then are not enough of a part of their life to stop them or explain to them what is right or wrong then, you have only yourself to blame when things happen. I am apart of every event my kids are in, in one way or another. My kids and my wife are my life and they are the ones I have the most fun with.

I'm done, they ended up watching the Lego Movie. All are loving it. We are sugaring them all up so that we can send home the ones that are going home nice and rowdy.biggrin.gif

Don't know why I am telling you all this, maybe I wanted to make sure no one thought I was some lowlife who didn't care about his kids future.
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Thanks Alpha, yes my kids know that if their behavior or attitudes change, everything goes away. We are strict parents in many other ways, we just do thing a little different than others and so far its worked great for us. My 14 year old is almost an Eagle Scout, he is away this weekend competing in state championships for TSA which is the Technology Student Association. He has straight A, plays football and made it state on both TSA, DECA and Knowledge bowl. He watch Jeepers Creepers with me when he was about 6 years old. I have my limits though, he wanted to watch the Wolf Of Wall Street and that was one he was not allowed to watch. Too much nudity and drugs.

My other 3 kids are 10, 8, 6. The 10 year old is scared of Walking Dead but likes to watch Bones with us, and Phsych and he is allowed to watch Percy Jackson, actually has read all 4 books. He has also read all the Harry Potter books. We have friends whos kids are not allowed to watch or read any of these books, not because they are scare but because they will give the kids a diiferent take on religion. Since magic and gods are not in their bible. We are Christian, but we are also aware that these are movies and fantasy. My kids are aware of that as well. Never has any of my kids tried to put a spell on us? They do believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa, which is odd because the same parents that don't let their kids watch the movies allow their kids to believe in these mythical beings?biggrin.gif

All my kids are have amazing grades, are in Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts in which I am both an Assistant Scout Master and the Committee Chair. and do have as many chores as other kids do. They are not allowed to mimic anything they hear or watch on tv and know better. I have no problem spanking my kids. I wont whip them or hit them with my belt, and my wife is always present when they get spanked to make sure neither of use abuse it. None of kids are allowed to Play GTA or any games where they actually kill humans. Only Zombies. Weird I know.

I think the main problem lies in the parents, if you let your kids do these things and then are not enough of a part of their life to stop them or explain to them what is right or wrong then, you have only yourself to blame when things happen. I am apart of every event my kids are in, in one way or another. My kids and my wife are my life and they are the ones I have the most fun with.

I'm done, they ended up watching the Lego Movie. All are loving it. We are sugaring them all up so that we can send home the ones that are going home nice and rowdy.biggrin.gif

Don't know why I am telling you all this, maybe I wanted to make sure no one thought I was some lowlife who didn't care about his kids future.

I meant, if they arent acting crazy then you must have a real handle on parenting them. I think giving them freedom and choices will help them mature more rapidly and for the better. Otherwise, like me, when I get freedom all of the sudden at 16+ I went crazy. If more parents did actual parenting, like yourself, I think a lot of kids would be better off.
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I forgot to mention that I am only 50% of the equation. I have an amazing wife who keeps us all in line.
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Thanks Alpha, yes my kids know that if their behavior or attitudes change, everything goes away. We are strict parents in many other ways, we just do thing a little different than others and so far its worked great for us. My 14 year old is almost an Eagle Scout, he is away this weekend competing in state championships for TSA which is the Technology Student Association. He has straight A, plays football and made it state on both TSA, DECA and Knowledge bowl. He watch Jeepers Creepers with me when he was about 6 years old. I have my limits though, he wanted to watch the Wolf Of Wall Street and that was one he was not allowed to watch. Too much nudity and drugs.

My other 3 kids are 10, 8, 6. The 10 year old is scared of Walking Dead but likes to watch Bones with us, and Phsych and he is allowed to watch Percy Jackson, actually has read all 4 books. He has also read all the Harry Potter books. We have friends whos kids are not allowed to watch or read any of these books, not because they are scare but because they will give the kids a diiferent take on religion. Since magic and gods are not in their bible. We are Christian, but we are also aware that these are movies and fantasy. My kids are aware of that as well. Never has any of my kids tried to put a spell on us? They do believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa, which is odd because the same parents that don't let their kids watch the movies allow their kids to believe in these mythical beings?biggrin.gif

All my kids are have amazing grades, are in Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts in which I am both an Assistant Scout Master and the Committee Chair. and do have as many chores as other kids do. They are not allowed to mimic anything they hear or watch on tv and know better. I have no problem spanking my kids. I wont whip them or hit them with my belt, and my wife is always present when they get spanked to make sure neither of use abuse it. None of kids are allowed to Play GTA or any games where they actually kill humans. Only Zombies. Weird I know.

I think the main problem lies in the parents, if you let your kids do these things and then are not enough of a part of their life to stop them or explain to them what is right or wrong then, you have only yourself to blame when things happen. I am apart of every event my kids are in, in one way or another. My kids and my wife are my life and they are the ones I have the most fun with.

I'm done, they ended up watching the Lego Movie. All are loving it. We are sugaring them all up so that we can send home the ones that are going home nice and rowdy.biggrin.gif

Don't know why I am telling you all this, maybe I wanted to make sure no one thought I was some lowlife who didn't care about his kids future.

No. Not at all. It's just make believe. It's not like they are watching snuff films and porno

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I forgot to mention that I am only 50% of the equation. I have an amazing wife who keeps us all in line.

Your wife made you post that! JK

Your and your family sound like mine minus a few kids. We spend pretty much all our time as a family which I think is lacking in this world. Even before my son adds a friend on xbox I have to speak to that person first or play a few rounds to figure them out. As soon as I hear nonsense from one of them they are off his list or a warning. Most people on his list know we game together and think its great that I check things out before and respect that.

If you are not involved in your children's life someone else will be and it might be for the worse!
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I'm running the one Marty Cube with 18htd2 using an anti-mode 8033s sub calibration...Sounds good but I have no idea of what the actual sub puts out. I have now ordered a umik to take some measurements using REW. Should receive it next week some time and I'll post my findings. Thanks Chalupgadp for the guide..it will come in handy for sure as I have no idea of what I'll be doing..Comments and suggestion will be welcomed.

 

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What amp you powering it with ?
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well I've finally got my two ixl marty cubes up and running I haven't had a chance to watch a movie yet but I've been putting them through their paces with a little bass heavy music and I couldn't be happier the bass is so tight and defined it's like I'm listening to sealed subs. However at the same time it bring back memories of the old days running car audio. Now I'm needing to build some high efficiency speakers to keep up. Thank you to all you guys in the diy community who bring these designs and plans to the rest of us to enjoy.

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Inuke 3000dsp..getting the itch to build a second one but the drivers are no longer available..I'm going to wait  and hopefullySstereo Integrity will have them available again..Or I'll watch the classified..

 

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well I've finally got my two ixl marty cubes up and running I haven't had a chance to watch a movie yet but I've been putting them through their paces with a little bass heavy music and I couldn't be happier the bass is so tight and defined it's like I'm listening to sealed subs. However at the same time it bring back memories of the old days running car audio. Now I'm needing to build some high efficiency speakers to keep up. Thank you to all you guys in the diy community who bring these designs and plans to the rest of us to enjoy.

Does anyone know how the ILX compares with the SI & the ULX ??
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Inuke 3000dsp..getting the itch to build a second one but the drivers are no longer available..I'm going to wait  and hopefullySstereo Integrity will have them available again..Or I'll watch the classified..

 

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So you are running in bridge mode with limiter ? Giving it about 1200 watts. What are your peq settings.
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well I've finally got my two ixl marty cubes up and running I haven't had a chance to watch a movie yet but I've been putting them through their paces with a little bass heavy music and I couldn't be happier the bass is so tight and defined it's like I'm listening to sealed subs. However at the same time it bring back memories of the old days running car audio. Now I'm needing to build some high efficiency speakers to keep up. Thank you to all you guys in the diy community who bring these designs and plans to the rest of us to enjoy.

Does anyone know how the ILX compares with the SI & the ULX ??
Based on specs it's in between. Has a bit better xmax then si and can handle more power.

I have si18 and uxl18 and there is significant difference between those two. I would characterize the difference between si18 and ixl as slight. (1-2 dbs) vs 4-5 dbs with uxl.
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To cover the interior of two full marty with this, I would need ~72 sq/ft

 

Estimating it would cost $200 to line 2x full marty. Any other alternatives that would work well for large areas?

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Estimating it would cost $200 to line 2x full marty. Any other alternatives that would work well for large areas?

If you want to save money go to Walmart and buy some pillows. Rip the poly fill out to a couple inches thickness. Can do both subs for 20 bucks. I just like the look of the eggcrate and I don't line the top of the sub . My cubes cost me about 50 bucks in eggcrate to line.
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I see you were waiting for that, was only milliseconds after my 1999 post...

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Hi all, I'm still a newb at all this my current sub is the Pioneer SW-8MK2, Chalugadp, do you still make these subs for 250? does that come with the driver? This seems like it could be a fun project for me to work on in the summer, would this be overkill for a small apartment on the third floor? Also if the cost isn't 250, (amp not considered in this case) what is the approximate cost (live in Dallas, TX)
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Hi all, I'm still a newb at all this my current sub is the Pioneer SW-8MK2, Chalugadp, do you still make these subs for 250? does that come with the driver? This seems like it could be a fun project for me to work on in the summer, would this be overkill for a small apartment on the third floor? Also if the cost isn't 250, (amp not considered in this case) what is the approximate cost (live in Dallas, TX)

250 with the driver and I'd be losing money on each sale biggrin.gif

The cube is 200 plus shipping. To you it would be about 280 for just the flatpack. It wouldn't be overkill. Here's an example of how it would improve the sound compared to a commercial 12-15" sub for say 600 bucks.

You watch a movie at -25 dbs. Not super loud. The cube will play all tones from 20hz to 100 hz with authority , even listening at -25. Punches ,kicks and gunshots will sound good. When a passage goes from 50hz down to 20hz it won't fade out like a 600$ sub would since it's down 10dbs at 20 hz compared to cube.
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If you want to save money go to Walmart and buy some pillows. Rip the poly fill out to a couple inches thickness. Can do both subs for 20 bucks. I just like the look of the eggcrate and I don't line the top of the sub . My cubes cost me about 50 bucks in eggcrate to line.

Is there a sound quality difference in these options? How should I secure this? It will be an upward firing system where the port will be along a wall. So I would put polyfill on the 2'x2' bottom and the 4x-2'x4' sides.

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Is there a sound quality difference in these options? How should I secure this? It will be an upward firing system where the port will be along a wall. So I would put polyfill on the 2'x2' bottom and the 4x-2'x4' sides.

No difference in sound quality. If you stuff the whole pillows in the sub then you reduce the spl output a bit becuase you are reducing the internal volume. That's why I just use 1.5-2 inches of lining compared to a whole pillow which is 5-6 inches thick.

you could secure it with a spray adhesive like this
http://solutions.3mcanada.ca/wps/portal/3M/en_CA/3M-Super-77/Super77/
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Is there a sound quality difference in these options? How should I secure this? It will be an upward firing system where the port will be along a wall. So I would put polyfill on the 2'x2' bottom and the 4x-2'x4' sides.
I bought 3 $2.50 poly fill pillow from walmart and only used two of them...When you cut them open you can take the poly fill out and unroll it fairly easily and then I used some scissors to cut it in sections to fit my cube...I was pretty darn happy with the results and amount of lining for $5..Here is a picture or two of mine lined. I just tucked the poly fill behind the bracing.


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No problem...doesn't look as pretty or neat and tidy as the acoustic foam...but gets the job done and cheaply at that.
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