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Love it. Wanted a bit more top end from speakers sore just dialed in peq from 4 to 11 k and gave it a little boost. So many options.
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I know this thread is about the martycube, but I have been following this thread and since I love the performance of my martycube vs previous subs, I trust your guys recommendations.

Is the performance/price similiar with the diy speakers vs commercial speakers?.I see you guys mention the tempest, 1099 , etc. I was in market to buy some aperion audio speakers, but if the performance of diy is better than those, than I would be crazy to not try that route. I read the specs, but those dont always tell the full story of sound quality from a speaker.

for those that have built your own speakers, you think it is well worth it?

Do the kits for the tempest, 1099, include the box, or is it just the baffle and components?
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None of the kits include the boxes, it's just the baffles. But Erich does offer a flat pack cabinet for the Tempests plus pre-assembled crossovers so that makes putting them together extremely easy.

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The aperion top speaker is 2k for the pair. I have a tough time thinking it's better then the tempest or 1099. I know at reference level aperion would be near it's limit and the diy want to go louder.

Three tempests or 1099 plus two volt 10 or fusion 6 with flatpacks would be similar price to 2k pair. The only area where aperion has real edge is in looks. But that's where my veneer flatpacks come in tongue.gif

If i was going commercial route at cheap price I would go for emptek speakers. Most people find that for movies once you go waveguide, you never go back.
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The aperion top speaker is 2k for the pair. I have a tough time thinking it's better then the tempest or 1099. I know at reference level aperion would be near it's limit and the diy want to go louder.

Three tempests or 1099 plus two volt 10 or fusion 6 with flatpacks would be similar price to 2k pair. The only area where aperion has real edge is in looks. But that's where my veneer flatpacks come in tongue.gif

If i was going commercial route at cheap price I would go for emptek speakers. Most people find that for movies once you go waveguide, you never go back.

totally agree. i have never heard Aperions new Verus speakers but i owned almost every one of their old Intimus line and every Bravus sub. the Tempests or 1099 are in a totally different league. The Aperions are very warm sounding. The SEOS are clear as day.

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Ok. So it sounds like the performance difference of these diy speakers are similar to the marty cube vs commercial speakers.

Before I go all out and re-do my whole stereo system and replace something I already have, I think I will try some bookshelf speakers. I need something small, only gonna be able to do 2 channel stereo. Its for our "formal" living room. Had to talk the wife into even letting me do this!

I was looking at the alpha 8 minions. Any reason not to go this route?..any other suggestions? I just picked these cause I watched the video on the website and the clarity and output was insane, even for outdoors like in the video.

Also, the flat pack you can order with it is baltic birch. Not real familiar with wood/stains, but can you stain this to give it a similar look to cherry wood? Just trying to see if I can get close to matching the cabinets that these will be sitting on.
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Ok. So it sounds like the performance difference of these diy speakers are similar to the marty cube vs commercial speakers.

Before I go all out and re-do my whole stereo system and replace something I already have, I think I will try some bookshelf speakers. I need something small, only gonna be able to do 2 channel stereo. Its for our "formal" living room. Had to talk the wife into even letting me do this!

I was looking at the alpha 8 minions. Any reason not to go this route?..any other suggestions? I just picked these cause I watched the video on the website and the clarity and output was insane, even for outdoors like in the video.

Also, the flat pack you can order with it is baltic birch. Not real familiar with wood/stains, but can you stain this to give it a similar look to cherry wood? Just trying to see if I can get close to matching the cabinets that these will be sitting on.

I went the same route. Started with minions. They are great. Then bought fusion mtm. If i was to do it again I think I would buy the fusion 8 instead of minions. A little cheaper and the midrange is a little nicer I think. Jeff is a wizard with his voicing.

The seos or eos are so clear and powerful.
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Have you finished your sub yet ? How does it sound ? Other people want a sub that size.
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Lol!!! Just primered and painted the sub flat black over the weekend. Want to do one more coat over the coming Easter weekend as it is cold again!!
I talked to Mark about ordering a uxl-18 and it looks like they will not be in stock until early June!!
So...no sound until then.
I will post some picks over the weekend once its fully painted to my liking.
I used 3 coats of BIN primer/sealer with sanding 120 grit between coats.
I then painted 2 coats of Tremclad flat black with sanding 220 between.
Came out great and want one more coat to make sure it looks perfect.
I wish I used more wood filler as I can still see some screw heads if I look very closely.
Luckily wont see any of this from a distance. A lot of work but I think it looks much better than Duratex...
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I know but luckily I have lots of patience!!! I really wished I had gotten in on the uxl-18 group by but...such is life!!
I showed my neighbor the sub I was painting in my garage and he was not too happy!!
Can't wait to build the next sub and piss off all the neighbors around me!! Lol

Definitely have plans for more of your services once I am enjoying this sub in my living room.
The veneer that you have designed would look really good on some speakers too.
I also will want some speaker stands too!! This hobby is expensive!!
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I know but luckily I have lots of patience!!! I really wished I had gotten in on the uxl-18 group by but...such is life!!
I showed my neighbor the sub I was painting in my garage and he was not too happy!!
Can't wait to build the next sub and piss off all the neighbors around me!! Lol

Definitely have plans for more of your services once I am enjoying this sub in my living room.
The veneer that you have designed would look really good on some speakers too.
I also will want some speaker stands too!! This hobby is expensive!!

Just working out the kinks with cess. Here's a pic
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Shipping out first veneer pack Friday. Once we have it figured out and instruction booklet for people I will be taking orders. I will be redoing my center channel with veneer pack.

Also looks like I will be building a curved subwoofer to match someone's funk audio sub. Looking forward to the challenge.
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Just working out the kinks with cess. Here's a pic
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Shipping out first veneer pack Friday. Once we have it figured out and instruction booklet for people I will be taking orders. I will be redoing my center channel with veneer pack.

Also looks like I will be building a curved subwoofer to match someone's funk audio sub. Looking forward to the challenge.

How will you be selling the veneered flat packs?? The veneer will be attached to the MDF already or they will need to be attached after I build the speaker??
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Veneer attached after built. Just use proper adhesive and clamps and easiest way is brad nails. A belt sander would be perfect but could get away with orbital sander. Takes about an hour per side. Doing the front baffle would need a router. Could leave the front baffle painted black.
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The veneer would come in a small box weighing about 25 lbs ( for a martycube). About 30 bucks to ship. Wood cost depends on what you choose. From 35 to 120 bucks depending on maple ,oak ,or walnut ,etc.
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Wow! I've been gone on business travel, and then had my modem die so I had not been on here for the last few weeks. You guys have been busy!

Still lovin' the cubes. Watched Enders Game earlier this week and there were some pretty sweet scenes where the whole floor was shaking. I definitely think I'm happier with these cubes over something like a VTF-15 or other similarly priced sub that I was looking at and, of course, I built this myself! So, while it may be ugly, its extra cool cool.gif
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Ugly?eek.gif Them are fighting words. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally like big boned subs. wink.gif
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hahaa!!!  Glad they got there ok / and that you like them.

 

I just got back from Canada last night, actually.  I would have got in touch with you but it ended up being a quick trip ( got in Monday, met with Bestbuy's Canadian corporate office on Tues, flew back home right after that, back in CA / orange country by 11pm ).

 

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hahaa!!!  Glad they got there ok / and that you like them.

I just got back from Canada last night, actually.  I would have got in touch with you but it ended up being a quick trip ( got in Monday, met with Bestbuy's Canadian corporate office on Tues, flew back home right after that, back in CA / orange country by 11pm ).

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Ugly?eek.gif Them are fighting words. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I personally like big boned subs. wink.gif

lol, I was more specifically mentioning mine are ugly. The top is not flush, they haven't been painted, no rounded corners etc. I love em, but mine specifically aren't pretty like the rest of yours smile.gif
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How is the fan noise from those iNuke's in your theater during quiet passages?

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How is the fan noise from those iNuke's in your theater during quiet passages?
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You need to do the fan mod on them otherwise then are fairly loud even at idle. But the fan mod is really easy and once done you can't hear them unless you have your ear within a foot or two of the amp.

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How many sheets of mdf does it take to build 2 Marty's ?
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I used four 4x8 sheets based on the one-cut plan of LTD . There was a huge pile of sawdust, mdf cuts like butter but is a mess.
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