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bear123 03-28-2014 07:51 PM

Hey guys sorry I don't know this or how to figure it out, but what would be the ideal amp for this setup?  Would the Inuke3000 be good or 6000 needed/beneficial?


Thatsnasty 03-28-2014 08:09 PM

Inuke 3000 bridged at 4 ohms
or
Ep4000 bridged at 4 ohms.

Roughly 1900-2000 watts RMS , perfect match for the single 4 ohm coils on the UXL ( or FTW ).
Ep4000 is a flat a little bit lower but they are basically the same.

Be careful juicing the full amp power if you aren't running a high-pass filter though, but you should be okay otherwise.

Inuke6000 isn't really needed unless you have plans to get a second UXL.

bear123 03-28-2014 08:13 PM

Thanks very much. Just planning on one in conjunction with an XS30.  Not sure if I am going to run a HPF but I might, as I don't seem to notice much below 16 Hz at this point.

 

Do you have any opinion as to the pros and cons of the Inuke vs the Ep?


The Red Baron 03-28-2014 08:18 PM

I've heard the Inuke 3000dsp is a much better amp. That's what I would do if I were you. wink.gif

bear123 03-28-2014 08:24 PM

Cool thanks again.  I am thinking I can do this build for about the same or a little less than adding a 2nd XS30 with more output in the low end.  Plus I can split the cost up over the three components.


Thatsnasty 03-28-2014 08:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post

I've heard the Inuke 3000dsp is a much better amp. That's what I would do if I were you. wink.gif

Not true, they are basically the same amp, from the same manufacturer. But do a few things different.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bear123 View Post

Thanks very much. Just planning on one in conjunction with an XS30. Not sure if I am going to run a HPF but I might, as I don't seem to notice much below 16 Hz at this point.

Do you have any opinion as to the pros and cons of the Inuke vs the Ep?

Inuke3000 is smaller, lighter, but does nearly the same thing is the Ep4000.
Ep4000 is around 40-50 pounds, but doesn't start rolling off until around 5hz. Inukes are supposed to rolloff slightly higher at around 10hz.
This is not a big deal as much people don't even shoot for bass reproduction that low, but around these forums, it can make a difference.

So if you don't need the DSP built in the Inuke series, and you can deal with the larger weight and form factor, the EP4000 is the better buy.

For the record I own two ep4000's and one Inuke3000DSP.

The Red Baron 03-28-2014 09:19 PM

I would check out the tested rms of both amps. wink.gif

Thatsnasty 03-28-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post

I would check out the tested rms of both amps. wink.gif

I have, a while ago, and it was posted on this forum.
I already know the results.

I would encourage you do the same. Unless you are hiding some mystery test that was done recently, then feel free to post it, as I'm only trying to help the OP.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/855865/measuring-amplifiers

Edit: Apparently the 3000 doesn't have the rollof of the 6000, and is closer to the ep4000/2500 amps. Still, a toss up between them.

bear123 03-28-2014 10:59 PM

I have a miniDSP, but I would probably opt for the amp with DSP anyway, seems like a valuable feature to me for the future just in case.


basshead81 03-28-2014 11:09 PM

The DSP is what makes the Inuke a great value imo.

The Red Baron 03-29-2014 12:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatsnasty View Post

I have, a while ago, and it was posted on this forum.
I already know the results.

I would encourage you do the same. Unless you are hiding some mystery test that was done recently, then feel free to post it, as I'm only trying to help the OP.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/855865/measuring-amplifiers

Edit: Apparently the 3000 doesn't have the rollof of the 6000, and is closer to the ep4000/2500 amps. Still, a toss up between them.

I searched that thread and all I could find was a reference to a SPL test with the EP4000 and inuke 3000dsp in a separate thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1375633/ep4000-vs-inuke-dsp-3000-w-2-jtr-captivators-and-an-omnimic-which-amp-is-better/0_100

Later in your thread they make fun of the test. Go figure...

If some one can show these two amps rms tested I'd love to see it. biggrin.gif

steve nn 03-29-2014 12:21 AM

The EP has always been a good bang for your $$ amp over the years it seems. It would be nice if they had a EP dsp option with a hp that reached down to 15 with at least the power of the 4/2500.

Swolephile 03-29-2014 12:55 AM

I would not touch a ep 4000 for sub duty. Id go with a Inuke 6000 if you can.

The Red Baron 03-29-2014 01:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swolephile View Post

I would not touch a ep 4000 for sub duty. Id go with a Inuke 6000 if you can.

To drive one UXL18 in a 4cf sealed box? That's what I got to drive two. eek.gif

Thatsnasty 03-29-2014 01:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post

I searched that thread and all I could find was a reference to a SPL test with the EP4000 and inuke 3000dsp in a separate thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1375633/ep4000-vs-inuke-dsp-3000-w-2-jtr-captivators-and-an-omnimic-which-amp-is-better/0_100

Later in your thread they make fun of the test. Go figure...

If some one can show these two amps rms tested I'd love to see it. biggrin.gif

It has RMS testing of the ep2500. The Ep2500 is the same as the Ep4000, and they do 1950watts RMS indicated in that thread, at 4 ohms.
I don't think the Inuke3000 has been officially tested, but it's known to be similar, or rolloff ever so slightly sooner.

We are basically splitting hairs at this point. Fan mod any Inuke series or Ep2500/4000 amp and you would be hard pressed to find a better subwoofer amp for home duty. (for the money)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swolephile View Post

I would not touch a ep 4000 for sub duty. Id go with a Inuke 6000 if you can.

What are you basing this on? The Ep4000 gives more power under 20hz then most amps.
According to Bassthathz's thread with the Fluke DMM, it actually shows it might even rolloff less then the clone amps.


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