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Originally I bought all the parts to build a "Big Mal" center channel, but after several weeks of running my cheap thrills with a fantom center I decided to scrap the project. I was about to pull the trigger on a pair of V10s, but I vaguely remembered seeing a build thread for a seos with two NS6 woofers.

Here's the thread I found:
http://www.diysoundgroup.com/forum/index.php?topic=101.0

All I needed to complete this project was:

Seos 12
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Parts for one crossover (the BigMal uses the exact same crossover, but with an addition Cap added for the outside woofers)
A little bit of wood (I had all the scraps)

Minus the price of the big mal parts I already had, and the fact I had all the wood/stain/paint, I ended up spending less than $100 dollars on this project.




I have a few construction pictures, but there's nothing interesting to be seen, or that hasn't been posted in 1000 other build threads.



The Dans with the Cheap Thrills, all matchy matchy!


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Here's something I did a little different, and that I'm proud of.. I used TV wall mounts instead of speaker wall mounts. Amazing, I know!!!




A pic showing how much tilt I can get out of these (I added a small spacer at the top of a bit of flexibility)



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Here are the wall mounts I went with:

http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Product/Details/8100?mainCategoryId=108&categoryId=10828&subCategoryId=1082802

Benefits:

Cheap ($16)
Tons of adjustability
Easy to install
Easy to remove speaker for service (backing plate detaches from arm)
Cheap
Wire management
Good weight capacity (44lbs, my speakers are 25lbs)
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As for listening impressions, these little speakers sound great! With boundary gain they have plenty of output down to 80hz in their .9cuft box.

I drove them with my IPR1600 and a 80hz filter to 118db @1m before they started to stink a little, the woofers were definitely jumping around at this point!

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Is the mount screwed into the wood? I would feel more comfortable if it was mounted using bolts and a nut/washer


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Is the mount screwed into the wood? I would feel more comfortable if it was mounted using bolts and a nut/washer

Yeah just screwed in. I agree, lock nuts and large washers would be ideal, however the speakers are about 25lbs, so 7.5lbs of lateral pull per screw shouldn't ever go anywhere, I did pre drill the holes and coat the screws in PL first as well.... Also this is pine ply, not MDF.

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In plywood that screw could hold 50 lbs no problem without anything added.
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They look great - good idea on the tv mounts too

I couldn't be happier, the infinite adjustability should let me really dial in the waveguides aim to get a great response across my entire spectrum of listening positions..... Which is one sofa biggrin.gif

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Thx for the reminder. I have basically the same style articulating mounts and forgot about them. When I finish my surrounds I'll put them to use. Glad you got positive results smile.gif
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How do you like the Daniels?

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How do you like the Daniels?

I like them! The sound isn't drastically different from my cheap thrills, since they share the same WG/CD.

I think at lower volumes they might actually sound better than my Cheap Thrills, the midrange and vocals are phenomenal, and the woofers are so close to the WG it gives a point-source presentation.

Its a pity they're only going to be called upon for surround duty, they are capable of much more!

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I like them! The sound isn't drastically different from my cheap thrills, since they share the same WG/CD.

I think at lower volumes they might actually sound better than my Cheap Thrills, the midrange and vocals are phenomenal, and the woofers are so close to the WG it gives a point-source presentation.

Its a pity they're only going to be called upon for surround duty, they are capable of much more!
I just finished my crossover for one and was going to test them out. Erich sent me baffles months ago, but things came up and I didn't have time. I may cut and clue a box tonight and give them a go this week. I have 14 NS6 drivers and was going to use them for surrounds with my TD12M/SEOS-12's, but we'll see.

Bill said they were articulate, and I gather from your comments you agree.

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I just finished my crossover for one and was going to test them out. Erich sent me baffles months ago, but things came up and I didn't have time. I may cut and clue a box tonight and give them a go this week. I have 14 NS6 drivers and was going to use them for surrounds with my TD12M/SEOS-12's, but we'll see.

Bill said they were articulate, and I gather from your comments you agree.

I agree! I wish I would have bought a dozen of the NS6s when I had a chance, I keep thinking of situations where these speakers would be a good fit.

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I agree! I wish I would have bought a dozen of the NS6s when I had a chance, I keep thinking of situations where these speakers would be a good fit.
You might be able to get some more. wink.gif http://www.diysoundgroup.com/limitedsupply/lo-aurasound.html

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