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These were $1,200 for the pair...but I'm probably going to be in another ~$400 for shipping.
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These were $1,200 for the pair...but I'm probably going to be in another ~$400 for shipping.

Wow!! Let me know where I can find a pair for that cost! Nice deal!!
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eBay has a pair for $1,900 after shipping right now.
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Thanks fellas. Dam not bad at all.

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All I have right now is my Sony EQ but my mic only works with my office computer and my RS meter is acting weird. So I could be flat just can't confirm. I have measured before and it was pretty flat with just Sony EQ but we shall see. Anyone know where I can get 1-2 inch foam to surround these in for shipping.
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Home Depot, Menards, lowes?
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Not sure if you have those in NY
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Walmart does too in the craft section

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Yes, even in this small town we have lowes and Home Depot. I never measured but what are the dimensions of the U215's? Since my baffle wall has made my room smaller the bass from the Yorks are the strongest of all speakers. I know my JBL's would have given them a fight but the room was 500 cubic feet bigger then.
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http://www.yorkville.com.au/yorkville-loud-speakers/unity/unity-speaker-systems/u215/

Shows 16.25x 19.25 x 50 inches and an extra 9.5" dimension shown for the very back little part

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All I have right now is my Sony EQ but my mic only works with my office computer and my RS meter is acting weird. So I could be flat just can't confirm. I have measured before and it was pretty flat with just Sony EQ but we shall see. Anyone know where I can get 1-2 inch foam to surround these in for shipping.

What model is that Sony EQ? I was not aware that Sony made an EQ devise? Is it like a graphic EQ? Would something like a MiniDsp or an all in one such as the Behringer iNuke1000dsp not be a better EQ devise)?
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That Sony he has did quite a good job for being such a cheap AVR. He will have to tell you more because I dont remember what thread it was that he explained it to us.
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What model is that Sony EQ? I was not aware that Sony made an EQ devise? Is it like a graphic EQ? Would something like a MiniDsp or an all in one such as the Behringer iNuke1000dsp not be a better EQ devise)?

I have been saying this is not eq'd, I am waiting on the Minidsp Nano AVR which arrives today. Before this I had a Meridian 861, Nakamichi amp, with a DCX 2496 for the front 3 channels. I sold the DCX because the Sherbourn I bought had PEQ in so never needed the DCX. The Sony DA2800 ES I have did a pretty good job with it's auto calibration. My reference level was -13 dBs on the MV but that was because they had all the trims set to 0 dBs. I set the trims to -13 to -10 dBs and now my reference is MV 0 dBs.
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Yes, even in this small town we have lowes and Home Depot. I never measured but what are the dimensions of the U215's? Since my baffle wall has made my room smaller the bass from the Yorks are the strongest of all speakers. I know my JBL's would have given them a fight but the room was 500 cubic feet bigger then.

I've had the U215s for quite a while and they were probably my favourite speaker overall, the bass quantity is definitely there but the quality is also great, the 18sound neo woofers sound fantastic.
The BMS CD stays very smooth up top even at extreme levels but I would introduce some EQ at 12 KHz just to add some air (+1.5db).
I would recommend adding some more power, I've tried them with a Denon AVR, a Bryston pro amp and finally an EP4000, as you add EQ the speakers just suck up the power, I would clip the Bryston (~450RMS) at higher levels.
Let us know what you think of them after a while and with some EQ, getting used to the sound (like LTD mentioned) is always a factor. Also, try bi-amping if you can pull that off, they become even more fun.
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Nice little treat waiting at home.

Off topic but since you have dual stack arrays, 2 for each LCR channel, how do you wire them to the recievers you've used? Just have each pair wired in parallel to each front channel for a 4 ohm load ?

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They are pro speakers and like most pro speakers they can be daisy chained with a parallel connection. I run a single speakon from the receiver to the bottom cab and then a speakon to speakon from the bottom cab to the top one. This results in one 4 ohm load to the receiver. The center has speakon connections and the Left and right have 1/4 plug jacks. BTW, both speakers have zero hiss or hum with the AVR. The only background noise I hear is the cooling fan to the projector I installed.
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Nice ya most pro speakers are nice that way.

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@MKtheater looking forward to hearing your impressions of that nanoAVR. I've got my eye on that one.

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I was trying to use it tonight but I could never get it to import to saved filters for EQ. I need to have the HDMI out from the PC to the hdmi in on the nano, I never did that! I have a feeling I will minutes to EQ all channels. The only bad thing I see for the sealed to single digits crowd is that the UMIK is crap under 10 hz, it just drops off with no cal files. Even my older calibrated to 4 hz UMIK used drop off like a rock at 10hz and the other mics I had showed response to 4hz. So I will just concentrate on 10hz and up and no I have under 10hz until I get a different mic. Also, the UMIK showed my DR's to have a really bad response in room. I have to turn off all the bass management in my SONY to get an accurate measurement so I will do so first. If that measurement was accurate their is huge room for improvement on the DR's and they actually sound good now. I will also set an EQ for the Yorks as well. I bet they don't require much EQ.
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Oh, the nano is tiny, about the size of a HDMI switcher. No manuals or any paper in the box, go to website, sign in and download including cal files for the mic.
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The only bad thing I see for the sealed to single digits crowd is that the UMIK is crap under 10 hz, it just drops off with no cal files. Even my older calibrated to 4 hz UMIK used drop off like a rock at 10hz and the other mics I had showed response to 4hz. So I will just concentrate on 10hz and up and no I have under 10hz until I get a different mic. Also, the UMIK showed my DR's to have a really bad response in room. I have to turn off all the bass management in my SONY to get an accurate measurement so I will do so first. If that measurement was accurate their is huge room for improvement on the DR's and they actually sound good now. I will also set an EQ for the Yorks as well. I bet they don't require much EQ.

I primarily use Omni mic and I really haven't used my UMIK mic much, but I don't remember it having a problem <10Hz. But I've never had to do anything to my under 10 Hz response in my room, so I might not have noticed.

Using the nano for on the fly full bandwidth EQ tweaks like I do with my mini for my subs looks awesome. I'm just wondering if it works the same way, so definitely looking forward to your experience.

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Well, I am going home for lunch and I want to see how long it takes me to run 8 sweeps and EQ all speakers and sub. Then I will measure the Yorks.
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Good stuff mk. Thinking about picking up some speakers for just 2 channel listening. What were the Maggie's you had before? You said they were best for music?
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Since you have single digit response you may want to get a UMIK from CSL. They calibrate down to 5hz.

Mine is down 2.4db at 10hz, and 8.7hz at 4.3hz. Of course now with the calibration file it's flat to 4.33hz.
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Well, either I don't or the measuring gear does not. According to this Umik it drops off at 10hz with a steep response like a ported sub. It did the same thing with my CSL umik. The EMC-8000 as digging much deeper and why I sold he Umik. This was for speaker EQ and I am waiting on a different lower reaching mic without file correction.
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I was looking at old posts from my speaker shoot out and refreshing my memory on the good things from other speakers. Man, I rated based on clarity of the detail, midbass, sound stage, feel, and most important to me dynamics. Without even hesitation I can say the U215's are 1 for mid bass. They can over power my room without the subs for music! So I will either give a 1 or 2 for 1st or second for each category and which ever has the lowest score wins. I have 3 people attending later plus me. I won't tell them which is playing but mine will be sighted. When I did my speaker shootout the SEOS and Noesis did not exist yet. At least people have heard the U215's compared to Danley and Noesis so it will give me a clue.
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For me that's great news. With the SEOS 10's, clarity, detail, and even output were never an issue, but the lack of mid-bass in my larger room definitely is. I'm sitting about 15' from the speakers.

At our GTG last August, removing the T12's that Jeff brought and replacing them with the SEOS was very noticeable in the mid-bass. That's when I first raised an eyebrow and starting looking for something else. I didn't notice any lack of detail or clarity going from the JTRs to the SEOS, but the mid-bass was night and day to me.
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Just an FYI, there are 2 of these on ebay with 2 crown CE2000 amps for $2100...
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