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post #31 of 57 Old 04-27-2014, 08:33 PM - Thread Starter
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Probably going to be upright in the corner but I will redo my sub crawl and see what happens. Now Im really excited to build this and put it all together! I cant wait!

 

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You could do a sonosub which uses sonotube (concrete form) for the enclosure. All you would need to build is the end caps.

 

Here is an example of a sonosub

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1092905/my-sonosub-with-mach5-ixl-15-2-2/0_100

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The maelstrom is a beast of a sub, I would buy it for $250. Do you know if the driver is the first gen maelstrom or 2nd gen? There is two versions.

 

The guy told me that he thinks it is a first gen. Is it still worth looking into? Do you by chance know what the differences between the first and second gen are? In winISD it is showing the Gen i producing more SPL then the Gen ii.

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They model fairly close to each other so theres not much difference. If the driver is working fine its definitely worth a buy. High power handling and excursion to back it up, its a nice driver for sure.

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They model fairly close to each other so theres not much difference. If the driver is working fine its definitely worth a buy. High power handling and excursion to back it up, its a nice driver for sure.

Alright haha thanks! I will still listen to it before I buy but what's the rms on it? I was looking for the specs and all I found was "1500 watts" and I don't know if it's rms or peak?
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In modeling it seemed like it would take 2000 watts. That is the wattage I used (I guessed) when I was looking at air port velocity. I figured if 2000 watts was good, then it's good. You'll need a lot of amp for that thing.

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I would assume that is RMS.

 

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In modeling it seemed like it would take 2000 watts. That is the wattage I used (I guessed) when I was looking at air port velocity. I figured if 2000 watts was good, then it's good. You'll need a lot of amp for that thing.

 

The amp he is selling is 4000 on 220v or something like 2300 on 120. I really wanted the amp with it but he had someone say they are going to pick it up on Saturday but it was first come first serve. I would feel bad for taking it from someone like that haha Between you and me, I hope he passes it up so I can grab it! Do you know of any good reasonably priced amps that can get the job done? Whenever I search amps, I get things like Pyle. (thats not going to happen) The main reason I was so interested in the sub and amp was because I could get them together. No I would have to drop some serious coin on an amp to power the beast! Any suggestions?

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Ep4000
Inuke 3000/6000 with or without DSP

Those are the two most popular right now.
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Ep4000
Inuke 3000/6000 with or without DSP

Those are the two most popular right now.

 

If went with the iNuke 3000, I could be able to bridge it and give the sub substantial power correct, Im a little fuzzy on bridging? I know about lower impedances means more power from car audio but not bridging the amp?

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A bridged inuke 3000 will be fine for a single maelstrom x. I think it puts out something like 2000w @ 4 ohms bridged. What high pass filter are you going to use?
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I was thinking 80 hz?

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That is a lowpass. A high pass protects the driver from over excursion below tuning with a ported enclosure. The inuke DSP can set one as low as 20hz but it might be possible to set one lower with a few tricks.
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I would like 10 but probably should do 15 because I get heavy on the volume knob sometimes. I dont really wanna go any higher than 15 because thats the reason i tuned the box low haha Do you think I could do something around 15 with that amp?

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Thank you, if i get one i will give this a shot! I have a lot to learn about home subs vs car audio, but im getting there!

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I have been looking at the iNuke but I am not familiar with the connections in the back? I was expecting something like the single sub out from my receiver to the amp and something like speaker wire from the amp to the sub? 

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Receiver - sub output - rca to xlr

 

inuke in stereo - 2 pole speakon  to bare wire - bare wire connects to sub

inuke bridged - 4 pole speakon to bare wire - bare wire connects to sub

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Receiver - sub output - rca to xlr

Link ?

I just happen to need a spare.

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Ok, I would need 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NA4LJX-4-Inch-SpeakON-Adapter/dp/B00067JSM8/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1399080605&sr=1-1&keywords=4+pole+speakon

and

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Cable-XRM105-RCA-Male/dp/B000068NZK/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1399080660&sr=1-2&keywords=rca+to+xlr

 

With the two 4 pole speakon connectors, I would go + and - from subwoofer to each 4 pole speakon and plug them into both A and B channel for bridged. Does that sound about right?

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Link ?

I just happen to need a spare.

 

I make my own cables so I don't know what people are recommending for cables.

 

 

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Ok, I would need 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NA4LJX-4-Inch-SpeakON-Adapter/dp/B00067JSM8/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1399080605&sr=1-1&keywords=4+pole+speakon

and

http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Cable-XRM105-RCA-Male/dp/B000068NZK/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1399080660&sr=1-2&keywords=rca+to+xlr

 

With the two 4 pole speakon connectors, I would go + and - from subwoofer to each 4 pole speakon and plug them into both A and B channel for bridged. Does that sound about right?

 

For a bridged inuke you'll need this

 

one 4pole speakon: http://www.parts-express.com/neutrik-nl4fx-speakon-spx-cable-connector-4p--092-190

one rca/xlr: http://www.parts-express.com/xlr-female-to-rca-female-adapter--240-438

 

The rca xlr cable you linked to on amazon should work too.

 

 

 

The RCA/XLR cable connects to the "CH A" input on the right. The speakon connects to "CH A" output on the left, this hooks up to your sub positive and negative.

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Ok, so i'll only need one 4pole for bridged? nice, thanks again!

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I got the sub. I'm not sure if its gen i or gen ii? it has stitched leads which I thought was gen ii but it has a single 4 ohm coil? do you by chance know what one that is? i have tried to find something on the single four but couldnt find anything. Also, it looks like it has or had another set of leads for another coil but the leads are just stitched to the spider and lead to nowhere and have imp. There are even holes for another set of terminals too. But the sub sounds great and weighs a ton!

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I got the sub. I'm not sure if its gen i or gen ii? it has stitched leads which I thought was gen ii but it has a single 4 ohm coil? do you by chance know what one that is? i have tried to find something on the single four but couldnt find anything. Also, it looks like it has or had another set of leads for another coil but the leads are just stitched to the spider and lead to nowhere and have imp. There are even holes for another set of terminals too. But the sub sounds great and weighs a ton!

My Gen 2's were stitched and single 4 ohm coils.

Blasting brown notes for 10 years and counting!

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Ok then! I got a gen 2! Thanks! I hope to be getting the amp soon and starting on the box, I cant wait!

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Ok then! I got a gen 2! Thanks! I hope to be getting the amp soon and starting on the box, I cant wait!

I don't know what the gen 1's were though but if memory serves me, they were 2+2 coils. Either way, it's a awesome sub!

Blasting brown notes for 10 years and counting!

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I know, I cant wait to get this thing hooked up so some real power so I can see the 33mm excursion! I had it wired in series with the two 15s in my car on 1200 watts, the 15s are rated at 600 rms and we going to town but the Maelstorm shrugged it off like nothing! I get excited every time I look at it!

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