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Piano Black Fusion-12 Tempests, DIY stands, and magnetic grill

Started building the stands first, trying something a bit different.









Going to flush trim the edges and then fill with Bondo. The seams are fairly big as the grit on the cinderblock didn't let the wood go flush together, I should have cut them a bit bigger. I am going to paint the stands with zinsser bin sealer primer (shellac base) and then just some benjamin moore impervo satin black paint. I am interested to see if I can hide the large seams with bondo and then zinsser bin on top. The last time I used zinsser bin the seams showed through after a few months. I used wood filler last time instead of Bondo though, and Bondo seems to be much better.

The Fusion 12's will be done piano black with automotive paint.

Still deciding on how to do the grill, as the bottom of the driver and the ports are very close to each other so I am not sure if I can fit a piece of wood in between them.

Question: What is the best and cheapest thing to put inside the Fusion 12's? Can I just stuff a pillow in it? Should I put egg crate foam on the walls? Normally I just put pillows in my speakers but I've read some stuff about ported and how it doesn't need stuffing.

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I like the creativity!

No doubt these will be bullet proof / extremely solid.
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What can I line the walls of my speakers with other than egg crate foam?

http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/basic-co.../1255097010755

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/foam...ch-x-1-/905948

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http://www.homedepot.ca/product/duro...3-4inch/940437

would there be a noticeable difference between any of these? Egg crate foam is over 12x the price of these...
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I used pink fluffy fiberglass on mine. Or you could use Ultratouch denim insulation.

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yeah I'll probably end up going with fibreglass. I was hoping the durofoam would be as good, because it's so much easier to cut and glue in, but I don't think it has the same acoustic properties as fibreglass.
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I'm about to order the Tempests now, would I be crazy to get a matte waveguide when I'm doing a piano black finish? I think I like the matte waveguide better...
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Tempests ordered! Went with matte black seos. I am really looking forward to comparing these with my Paradigm Studio 10 V5's as I could never really compare my Fusion 8 MTM that well with anything since it is a center channel. After wood, paint, etc. I think the tempests will be an identical price to the Studio 10's.
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Can't go wrong with them. After joes gtg I will probably be ordering some too.
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I'm working on the boxes and don't have the kits yet, I'm doing a "U" brace from top to bottom, a U brace behind the woofer area, and a window brace between the SEOS and the woofer. If I put the window at exactly 1/3 height is that the proper location so that it will go against the wood between the waveguide and woofer? Or what is the exact height it needs to be put in at? I'm making the box the same size as the 2 cu ft flatpack.
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Also does anyone know the port clearance on the bottom? The U brace I'm putting from top to bottom is 1" high and 0.75" wide, will that run into the middle port?
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Still need baffle dimension info so I can start gluing the box together... Got all the wood cut, stand bases flush trimmed, and bracing cut out. It took over 20 minutes to cut the window baffle with jig saw. My jig saw must be terrible.








have to fill the crack in a bit with glue and bondo, cinderblock was a bit rough and the wood didn't sit perfectly flush on it.


braces... I need to know at what height to put this window brace in so it doesn't hit the woofer or CD or waveguide.
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Probably the blade, not the jigsaw. You want Bosch blades.
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Why not just use playground sand in the speaker stands?
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An orbital jigsaw cuts through wood like a hot knife through butter. They don't cost alot but they sure cut alot faster than conventional jig saws with blades that only move up and down. The one I have has 4 settings. Setting 0, straight up and down, setting 1, 2 and 3 which each gives a slightly more forward motion to the blades. If I set it on 3 I cut so fast through material it's hard to stay on your line if you aren't using a guide. This is with the factory blade...which is cheap.
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With the Bosch blades at about 2 bucks each it will cut like butter as well. How much is the orbital saw ?
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Why not just use playground sand in the speaker stands?
because bricks are cooler
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With the Bosch blades at about 2 bucks each it will cut like butter as well. How much is the orbital saw ?
2 bucks from where? I looked and only found them for like 7 bucks. I'm just cutting one more window brace so I'd rather spend 20 minutes then go and buy new blades lol.
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An orbital jigsaw cuts through wood like a hot knife through butter. They don't cost alot but they sure cut alot faster than conventional jig saws with blades that only move up and down. The one I have has 4 settings. Setting 0, straight up and down, setting 1, 2 and 3 which each gives a slightly more forward motion to the blades. If I set it on 3 I cut so fast through material it's hard to stay on your line if you aren't using a guide. This is with the factory blade...which is cheap.
Those look pretty nice, I'll pick one up some time maybe if there's a good sale
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2 bucks from where? I looked and only found them for like 7 bucks. I'm just cutting one more window brace so I'd rather spend 20 minutes then go and buy new blades lol.
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Bosch-4-in-...1BR/202242701/

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How much is the orbital saw ?
I picked mine up at C-tire here in Kelowna for $37.50 during a 50% off sale. Been totally impressed with it so far, it comes with a guide so you can actually rip longer pieces with it and be quite accurate. I was going to pick up some Bosch blades as well but I'll wait til this one is toast since it's working so well. It also has a laser guide you can turn on or off. Pretty awesome deal for under $40.
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I picked mine up at C-tire here in Kelowna for $37.50 during a 50% off sale. Been totally impressed with it so far, it comes with a guide so you can actually rip longer pieces with it and be quite accurate. I was going to pick up some Bosch blades as well but I'll wait til this one is toast since it's working so well. It also has a laser guide you can turn on or off. Pretty awesome deal for under $40.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ma...l#.U62f37HyA5s
Pretty nice, good find .
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I have to agree about orbital action. It clears the blades of saw dust on each stroke, so the blade teeth engage the wood firmly each stroke. With reciprocating cutting tools, this is 99% of the problem usually. Also use a course toothed blade.
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