Yes. Jbrown will probably chime in but I think he said the top end of the jtrs was a bit better. I will be hearing both at his gtg. If its for mainly movies I don't think you would hear much of a difference. If you listen to a lot of music you might want to look at using the ae driver.
The top end on the JTR's just isn't brought down as much as it is on the Tempest because the designer for the Tempest was shooting for a more laid back sound like his other speakers. That's in the crossover.
The high end in the Tempest can be taken back up 3db by leaving out one of the 2 ohm resistors.
Yeah I had a chance to hear the 170's last week for about two full days as I helped my buddy put together a system using them as surrounds and the 340's as mains. You'll definitely have to max them out with your AVR to level match them but after hearing them at pretty loud levels I would think they'd work fine with a high sensitivity speaker like a 228HT or Tempest for movies.
wow cool rock is my favorite genre and I love to crank it up.
one thing that I love about my 340s is the tweeter and how it never bothers my ears even when loud for long period of times.
I normally am not a fan of horns especially klipsch but I have that the horns on the 228s are not very fatiguing at all. I hope the temptest has the same attributes in that particular category
as of now im very interested in building 3 of these temptest speakers
I was strongly considering 212's or 228's, most likely 228's. I talked to a few people who had been at the GTG where the SEOS speakers and the JTR's were played. I told them my primary focus was movies and I was told that for movies they were very, very close. For music they liked the JTR's more but put them at 90-95% as good for music. For movies they put them even. I went with three Tempests and I'm happy I did. Especially for the money difference.
I'm really looking forward to getting a chance to compare the 1099's and Tempest up against my 228HT's, but I'm really looking forward to hearing the 1099's. I'll have a chance to compare some Tempest directly against my 228HT's for the entire week before the GTG that I'm hosting. But like Jeff said I think it's a fair assessment to say that the Tempest would be 90-95% of the JTR speakers from the limited listening I was able to get in with the Tempest when I had some in my basement.
well it looks ill order these temptest speakers soon.
ill keep researching but im really into this speaker and cant wait to build it to
someone online had built some with an extended base and light colored verneer that looke great, im more of a matte black kind of guy though lol I think it makes em look tough
what have guys been using for a center with the temptest? another temptest would prolly work but id like something that lays horizontal because it would fit better in my space.
A thing I don;t understand is how can a speaker be good for movies but not music (not counting wanting to play full range) most movies have music, so the Tempest when crossed at 80 (or even 60hz) would sound about the same for where it counts 80hz-20khz?
I don't really know if I can answer that question but one thing I can say is that I have always really enjoyed horn speakers for moves but not so much for music. that's more of a characteristic than an actual performance aspect but its just my 2 cents
I think it also depends on the horn speaker too though, for example I've heard both the Klipsch RF-7II's and Ultra 2 speakers and didn't like them for music. But I've heard both the Tempest and my JTR 228HT's and like both for music, and actually love my 228HT's for music.
I find with all the seos speakers I've heard they need a little eq with mids and highs for my preference. With the tempest, minion, and fusion mtm they needed about 2 dB's less in 300-800 range. Just a tad aggressive for voices. Then I add 1.5-2 dB's around 3-6k. Use 5-6 peqs to do this.
Could be my room or just my taste. I think would eq I could get tempest to 95% of 228's. Considering price I would be happy with that. Your right Joe that the jtrs I believe will always have that extra something.
I can hear it when you bring them over on Thursday ???
I think almost everyone except for maybe the "what if" guys would be happy with the Tempest. Hell I know I'd be happy with them if I didn't already own the 228HT's, and I'd be the first to admit it if I thought the Tempest sounded better. Because the first thing I'd do is sell my 228HT's and built some Tempest and probably still have a $1000 left over in my pocket!
Are we talking six months from now hitting the site or two months. I am in the market for new mains. Can wait 2 months but not 6-8.
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