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post #1 of 21 Old 06-18-2014, 11:09 PM - Thread Starter
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Arrow Examples of how to make big subs look good!

Hey guys,
I will be doing a build with hopefully 2x Dayton Ultimax 18's when they are released.

They will be going in my living room HT. But how do you make a ~5cu.ft+ box look good for the WAF? Are there any good examples out there?
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How about this

Or this


Just my two. Tonnes of other good ones out their.
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infinite baffle


sub located in next room firing through wall


ottoman


down firing "end table"


there are several solutions to the 'problem'.

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I looked for another member for about half an hour trying to find this particular build and tonight I find it in 30 seconds.


http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...tml#post599635









hiding a 'whole lotta bass!


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Just look at any of passinginterest builds. Not sub's but beautiful work. Kevings has nice work as well as realtight,as well as aaronlinkous. Others I'm forgetting as well
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build it into the entertainment center.


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Wow guys they are all great.

I had a look at passinginterest's work and man that is just amazing!

I especially like the idea of incorporating them into an entertainment unit. Especially love "16hz lover"'s build. And that last one you put up LTD02.
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that one is nichol97's dual jbl 2242's (18 inch pro audio drivers) in 10 cubic footers each tuned to 22hz. minor chuffing with those ports. a really great stealth build.

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Found this one too: http://www.danmarx.org/blog/?p=461


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I looked for another member for about half an hour trying to find this particular build and tonight I find it in 30 seconds.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...tml#post599635






hiding a 'whole lotta bass!

That's a fantastic build. I'd love to hear and feel that sub. But having read that thread, I can't help but wonder if this dude suffers from self-inflicted hearing loss. 120dB @ 20Hz - IN A HOME??? And wanting more? That's gotta be asking for bleeding ear drums! Just insane!

I was at a concert not too long ago, where they played some music to warm up the crowd. According to my (probably uncalibrated) iPhone app we were subjected to 111.2dB at about 32Hz. This was some 40m from the stage. That was downright uncomfortable! Even with earplugs it was barely barable. If I had any kidney stones, I'm pretty sure they were adequately pulverized.

I like deep bass and headroom, but this seems like overkill. Unless you want to kill your ears.

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That's a fantastic build. I'd love to hear and feel that sub. But having read that thread, I can't help but wonder if this dude suffers from self-inflicted hearing loss. 120dB @ 20Hz - IN A HOME??? And wanting more? That's gotta be asking for bleeding ear drums! Just insane!

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I like deep bass and headroom, but this seems like overkill. Unless you want to kill your ears.
There is no law that says you have to turn it up to 11 every time.

BTW, this forum is overkill central
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That's a fantastic build. I'd love to hear and feel that sub. But having read that thread, I can't help but wonder if this dude suffers from self-inflicted hearing loss. 120dB @ 20Hz - IN A HOME??? And wanting more? That's gotta be asking for bleeding ear drums! Just insane!

I was at a concert not too long ago, where they played some music to warm up the crowd. According to my (probably uncalibrated) iPhone app we were subjected to 111.2dB at about 32Hz. This was some 40m from the stage. That was downright uncomfortable! Even with earplugs it was barely barable. If I had any kidney stones, I'm pretty sure they were adequately pulverized.

I like deep bass and headroom, but this seems like overkill. Unless you want to kill your ears.
The thing with 120 dB in a home is it's not like you're playing that level constantly. You might only need it for 2 or 5 seconds long in an explosion in a movie or a giant robot walking around. Your ears are much less sensitive to bass to 120 dB won't sound SUPER loud like a higher frequency will at 120 dB.

Now if you're playing music at 120 dB then yes that is very loud and can cause damage.

You need that much headroom if you watch at reference and like sound the way it was designed to be heard.
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Audyo,

So is it ok for the subs to look like subs? ( just with a nice finish / some style ) or is your goal to camouflage the subs and put them into a entertainment unit, ottoman, coffee table, etc?
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kivings - If I could do the boxes like passinginterest does his then they would pass the WAF test with flying colours, but THAT's not going to happen! So it looks like I will have to go with 'disguising' it or getting the big box out of plain sight.
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Any ideas?

Current setup (without projector screen & center speaker off-center so as to not cover the TV IR sensor. Center speaker stands on end for movies with the AT screen. See my sig for screen setup.)


Existing PB-2000 location

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Ok. So inspired by what I've seen so far, I have done a quick CAD design of a possibility by modifying my existing tv unit. Really though, I am just building around it and combining everything with a top sheet with edging.



P.S. Sorry for the work-related title block. It was just easy.
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that looks pretty stealth.

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Thanks LTD02, but what is bugging me is that I can't go any wider (maybe a little bit deeper) but it limits me to about 100L (or about 3.5ft3.)

I have run the model in WinISD, and it is slightly worse performance (surprisingly not too drastic with a little EQ), but it seems ok I think. (145L blue 1400W no EQ, 100L yellow @ 1400W with some EQ)



Obviously when the final specs come out on the driver it may change a little.
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Ok. So inspired by what I've seen so far, I have done a quick CAD design of a possibility by modifying my existing tv unit. Really though, I am just building around it and combining everything with a top sheet with edging.



P.S. Sorry for the work-related title block. It was just easy.
That looks good. You could also put the drivers on the sides/ends and leave the fronts timber if that better suited your aesthetics. Won't make a jot of difference sonically side/front.
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Thanks LTD02, but what is bugging me is that I can't go any wider (maybe a little bit deeper) but it limits me to about 100L (or about 3.5ft3.)

3.5ft3? That's just enough room for chalugadp's new micro-cube.

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