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Duratex Alternative

Hey folks,
I was in Home Depot today and saw this product

Saw commercials for this product and was intrigued. It was only 35$ a gallon and they had 20 different colors. I bought a gallon of black and tried it out. Didn't have a tonne of time but I put some on bare MDF and then a coat over top of my sub with duratex already. I sanded down duratex with 120 grit so it was smooth.

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Restore is not as textured. When you use a semi smooth roller it comes out to the texture of duratex with a foam roller. What I like though is it covers the seams( I still have one in my top but its covered with my wife's doilies) about the same as duratex with 6 mm roller. Restore paint is very thick.

Overall I prefer the restore look better. I f you like the really pebbled look then restore is not for you. I like that restore is half the price and locally available. You may want to try it out.
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Pretty cool! I wonder what some of the other colors would turn out like.
Next spring I'm planning on building five speakers for an outdoor theater and have been wondering how I was going to finish them without buying duratex. Thanks!
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Nice post Donny! I'm gonna have to pick up a gallon of this sooner or later and give it a try.
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Good thinking man!
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Nice post Donny! I'm gonna have to pick up a gallon of this sooner or later and give it a try.
With your prep skills it will be perfect.

Lots of colors
http://www.rustoleum.com/en/product-...ete-restore-4x
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In your thread that was locked I posted pics of my friends DIY downfiring MC's.They were finished with white deck restore....looks pretty good.
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I just didn't find duratex was good value for the price. Now shipping to me was 85$ total so more then most. Even with foam roller its a bit more rough then I want and it didn't cover up seams that great. My prep skills for painting are not great. I have little patience , especially when my sub's are all covered with stuff on top.

After I get all my speakers done I might go back and use a color other then black with restore for my subs. Will see.
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Is it easy to apply?
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Is it easy to apply?
Yup, no different then duratex except you don't want to use a foam roller with it. No harder then putting on regular paint.

I would say if duratex is really successful for someone then stick to it. If you only somewhat liked it then maybe try this stuff.
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Thx, I will try some on the boxes that I'm building now.
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Unlike Duratex, I wouldn't recommend applying this indoors.

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Unlike Duratex, I wouldn't recommend applying this indoors.
Yes it does stink more then duratex.
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I used this on my deck last year. Same thing as the restore product but smooth texture. The deck still looks great but I can still smell it. Especially on warm days.
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I used this on my deck last year. Same thing as the restore product but smooth texture. The deck still looks great but I can still smell it. Especially on warm days.
I'll see in a couple days if I can smell it.
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I was going to curse another bleeping product we can't get down here after I checked Rustoleum's site. Then I found there is a distributor for Duratex down here now.
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Duratex can have a very smooth texture. Besides the foam roller, it can be sprayed. I understand you're happy with your choice but I am posting this so others searching for duratex feedback don't look at your posted pics of the duratex and think the result always looks like that.

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Duratex can have a very smooth texture. Besides the foam roller, it can be sprayed. I understand you're happy with your choice but I am posting this so others searching for duratex feedback don't look at your posted pics of the duratex and think the result always looks like that.

That looks awesome. If its a smooth finish then why not use regular paint ?
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I used this stuff. It was over $50 for the gallon at walmart and has a very strong smell.

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nice find, that stuff looks great and a great price. Does anyone else have any really cheap options for a 100% smooth texture, flat black paint?

I paid 35.00 for a quart of the black paint I used on my stands -.- lol
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I just did the smell test and its fine. Can only smell it with nose directly on surface. Its been less then 24 hours.
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I just did the smell test and its fine. Can only smell it with nose directly on surface. Its been less then 24 hours.
That's awesome.

If smell did turn out to be a problem you could always hit it with some spray on satin poly. Might even be a good idea to do that regardless.

This was a great idea chalugadp!
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Spin monster,

Is there a thread for that sub?

Gorgeous work !
I found the build thread here:

http://www.aespeakers.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=701
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That's awesome.

If smell did turn out to be a problem you could always hit it with some spray on satin poly. Might even be a good idea to do that regardless.

This was a great idea chalugadp!
Thanks,
I now have 90% left of my restore and don't need the rest. If anyone lives near me ( Vancouver area) and wants it they can have it for a two litre of Coke.
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That looks awesome. If its a smooth finish then why not use regular paint ?
Duratex is used because it super durable. Its like arguing to use paint over powder coating when powder coating is 9 times as think, flexes for items so it can be used on springs and sway bars, and can be used the moment it comes out of the oven.

I can't comment on what you used because I haven't and I don't like making generalizations about things I don't have first hand experience with.

Duratex is water based and has no nasty smell. It cleans up with water and you can hammer on it once its done unlike anything else because it is way thicker than paint but has properties of a polymer. Its way thicker than paint and hides seams far superior to the results you got in the pictures you posted. Here is the side with all the seams on my last project and you can't see anything except a perfect finish. The second picture shows its uniform finish. I chose a texture on that finish and I get many compliments on it.


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Both are very similar thickness. Another option for those who don't want pebbles so thick. Most here don't spray duratex I think. I was lazy in my prep work but duratex didn't cover seams. Didn't work for eljaycanuck either.
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Duratex ... [is] way thicker than paint and hides seams far superior to the results you got in the pictures you posted.
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... I was lazy in my prep work but duratex didn't cover seams. Didn't work for eljaycanuck either.
That's correct. I did one coat of primer + two coats of DuraTex over all surfaces, and a third coat of DuraTex over the tops and fronts, and seams are still visible.
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If it were visible surfaces for my sub's I would have done more prep work. All my speakers will have veneer.
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I just did the smell test and its fine. Can only smell it with nose directly on surface. Its been less then 24 hours.
I'm surprised on the no smell. I read a ton of reviews f this stuff smelling pretty bad even outdoors when used for decks. I was looking at its stuff heavily to do on my deck, but horrible reviews for it. Never thought about using for a box though. Great on thinking outside the box on this one.

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