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Keep in mind, Sundown is the king of conservative ratings. Their SA line of subs have been been kippel tested to take a clean 1800 watts RMS despite their 600 RMS rating.

Their NightShade's are well renowned for breaking many SPL records (and windshields). I am speculating that these Z's out perform LMS 5400.

nyt and I were talking yesterday on IRC (irc.efnet.org in #av ). We speculated that maybe these out perform the LMS 5400s.. What if? And we were kidding about him replacing all of his LMS 5400s with these guys.. I guess we will soon find out.
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Keep in mind, Sundown is the king of conservative ratings. Their SA line of subs have been been kippel tested to take a clean 1800 watts RMS despite their 600 RMS rating.

Their NightShade's are well renowned for breaking many SPL records (and windshields). I am speculating that these Z's out perform LMS 5400.

nyt and I were talking yesterday on IRC (irc.efnet.org in #av ). We speculated that maybe these out perform the LMS 5400s.. What if? And we were kidding about him replacing all of his LMS 5400s with these guys.. I guess we will soon find out.
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would be impressive if it outperforms the LMS as its 300$ cheaper
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Keep in mind, Sundown is the king of conservative ratings. Their SA line of subs have been been kippel tested to take a clean 1800 watts RMS despite their 600 RMS rating.

Their NightShade's are well renowned for breaking many SPL records (and windshields). I am speculating that these Z's out perform LMS 5400.

nyt and I were talking yesterday on IRC (irc.efnet.org in #av ). We speculated that maybe these out perform the LMS 5400s.. What if? And we were kidding about him replacing all of his LMS 5400s with these guys.. I guess we will soon find out.
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Those surrounds could be just the ticket for PR's.

Looks like you'd only need half as many.

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Those surrounds could be just the ticket for PR's.

Looks like you'd only need half as many.
I remember bringing up such a thing back when the HST18 was shown here. I sure hope they consider building some PR's with those. Oh! And a 24" version.

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Keep in mind, Sundown is the king of conservative ratings. Their SA line of subs have been been kippel tested to take a clean 1800 watts RMS despite their 600 RMS rating.

Their NightShade's are well renowned for breaking many SPL records (and windshields). I am speculating that these Z's out perform LMS 5400.

nyt and I were talking yesterday on IRC (irc.efnet.org in #a v ). We speculated that maybe these out perform the LMS 5400s.. What if? And we were kidding about him replacing all of his LMS 5400s with these guys.. I guess we will soon find out.
Not a chance, LMS kill it in ported, these are better in sealed. I'm not excursion limited. LMS are pure win for my setup.

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I imagine they have more distortion than the LMS as well?
Think it matters with eight?
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Will these work in a folded horn or a tapped horn ?

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model and see
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Their NightShade's are well renowned for breaking many SPL records (and windshields).


Sundown Audio Nightshade v.3 18" 2500w RMS Subwoofer $819.00

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I meant the rigidity of the cone etc... some will model fine then die horribly from the pressures inside a horn.

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Think it matters with eight?
of course not, but I'm just wondering. I'm sure some people will be running less than 8 haha
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Sundown Audio Nightshade v.3 18" 2500w RMS Subwoofer $819.00

Is that a picture of the 18? That motor must weigh 100 pounds.
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Is that a picture of the 18? That motor must weigh 100 pounds.
don't think so
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Is that a picture of the 18? That motor must weigh 100 pounds.
I believe it's a 12"

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Is that a picture of the 18? That motor must weigh 100 pounds.
The only pics I see from the website are of 12's... the 15's and 18's just say "Image Coming Soon".

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"your guy" is going to need to use tire shine for all that rubber. They look like 40series good years.
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"your guy" is going to need to use tire shine for all that rubber. They look like 40series good years.
Haha, they remind me of the tubes we use to get to float down the river on!...lol


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These surrounds are pretty necessary. take the LMS ultra for example. It's surround limits it to just over 30mm of xmax. The claimed figures are so bogus its disgusting. I thought they'd address this, but never did. At least I'm using them in a situation I'm not xmax limited anymore with the ported enclosure, and they're superb for that, but I was pissed at the time with the sealed boxes.
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when those subs are "perculat'n like craaaaaa-zy" (about the 1:30 mark or so) is the camera mic distorting the heck out what is coming out of the subs or are they well over 100% distortion at that point?

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i think its because they slowed the video down so the sound is all messed up
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Talking to Jacob he said he could get the 18's basket to approach about 5.5" P-P for Mechanical. Nice to see you can beat the crud out of these subs and they keep on going.

And after checking out a custom 15" N V3 with a .9 Le I was EXTREMELY impressed with their custom builds. He stated he could get the Le down to about .3 with a 4 layer instead of the 8 layer they used. Great products I think and I cant wait to get my own pair of subs from them.

I dont know why but I seem to really like watching some of these excursion videos Jacob and others keep making. Bosso's, Notnyt's, Nicks and Jacobs are all fun to watch. PLUS the people I mentioned dont have distorting mic's with the videos.

Thanks again for sharing this thread Notnyt.
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of course not, but I'm just wondering. I'm sure some people will be running less than 8 haha
I come up with a 10 count.

What's the plan for the install?
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I believe it's a 12"

The site list it as an 18", but after looking at Sundown's site, it does look like the 12".

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You've been wanting to get into some of these for a while now. Glad you get the chance, and with such a nice number.

These, the HST, SP4, and UXL all model very very close in 4 cubes sealed. Within a DB or two if I remember right, but it's been a while since I looked.
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