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so the jayhawk shirt....where are you located at? i wanna come see these in person possibly. I'm a little north of kansas city.
I am in Lawrence. Unfortunately I will not really have a good demo situation due to living arrangements after divorce. I am doing all of the upgrades I have been wanting to for a long time while I can afford it before I get into a new house.
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You could repurpose that damaged woofer and mount it on your GSXR for some extra sonic boost. Maybe then you could actually beat an H2.

Awesome build, I'll be keeping my eyes on it.
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You could repurpose that damaged woofer and mount it on your GXSR for some extra sonic boost. Maybe then you could actually beat an H2.

Awesome build, I'll be keeping my eyes on it.
Hahaha the h2 is a beast! Not quite a fair comparison for my poor 15 year old gsxr lol. I can race it in modern vintage!
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Deserved reposting...that is all....
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Are you done with the cabinet internals at this point?
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Are you done with the cabinet internals at this point?
Yes, the cabinet work is complete.
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You might wanna consider some spine pieces, I bet that cab is gonna sing like Pavarotti.
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You might wanna consider some spine pieces, I bet that cab is gonna sing like Pavarotti.
Yeah thought of that, I will likely throw some in when I'm finishing the insulation.
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Put some pics of how you are building this monster, might help some of us considering building this.

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Put some pics of how you are building this monster, might help some of us considering building this.

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Not sure what else I could post. It is pretty straight forward cabinet, it just has a separate sealed enclosure within the cabinet for the mid. Erich sends diagrams and measurements for it.
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On to the finishing. This is my second build using vinyl wrap. I have gotten better after some experience with it. Odd enough, it was better to do it myself than with a helper. I cut each section and applied separately instead of trying to wrap around the cab. I got the section in place and put extra board at one end on top of it to keep it down. Then at the other end, peel back about 18" or so and let it lay flat on itself. Trim the paper off you just exposed. Then, pull the exposed vinyl back slowly as static will suck it back up to the exposed vinly if you go too fast. Once you have it lightly taught, let it lay down on the wood swiftly and evenly. Squeegee it up to the point where the backing is. Now, move the weight onto the end you now have down. Start to peel the backing again until the backing is rolling underneath. At this point, you can grab the backing on the sides and use your fingers to guide it along the box so that you are pulling it back evenly. Go a foot or so and then squeegee. Go another foot, squeegee. Repeat until you are at the end. The last 8" or so, the vinyl will want to snap backwards on you. Use one arm across it to simply keep it from snapping back, do not press it down. With your other hand, continue to pull the backing at a slow but steady pace. Once the backing passes the edge, the rest of the vinyl will lay down on the wood and you can squeegee. I encountered zero bubbles/creases with this method. On the baffles, I almost got some bubbles, just do less at a time on those.

The next trick is a flat blade tool. Forget the exacto knife, you have a natural tendency to turn the knife as you are cutting. The flat blade holder will let you use a standard razor blade. The trick to it is that you can lay the tool itself flat on the adjacent surface. Keep it flat and steady. Press GENTLY on the tool as you glide down the project. I would start about 3" from the edge and then come back the other way to cut that 3" to avoid trying to get it started at the very end, much easier as long you can go southpaw.



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I did get some simple bracing across on the backside as suggested, then insulation. Erich said I needed more, so bought more and went to town. Filled about half of the chamber with it and then to the top with polyfil. Hope it is enough because that is all it is going to get

You will see the two piece crossover in there. I had @mtg90 do the crossovers. I was going to do them myself, but really liked the idea of actual circuit boards for them, so off they went. I am avoiding crossover pics as the values are seen. The boards are quite a piece of hardware for these, there are a lot of parts and weight on these. Matt does a superb job, I didn't want to see them get hidden lol. Worth every penny, don't hesitate to have them done.







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The boxes looks great! What place did you order your vinyl from is it just a flat black color? Im guessing it has a sticky back to it I was thinking on doing the same to my boxes. I like the look of it.
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The boxes looks great! What place did you order your vinyl from is it just a flat black color? Im guessing it has a sticky back to it I was thinking on doing the same to my boxes. I like the look of it.

I ordered it from Vvivid. 3M sells it, but they are awfully proud of it, like twice as much or more if I recall. It has a sticky backing. Once it is down, you apply heat to activate the adhesive. You can use a hair dryer, but I used a heat gun. Just be careful not to get too much heat or it can melt I used black brushed metal for both builds. I really do like the look of it. The only complaint is how fragile the edges are. I have though about angle trim or clear plastic guard, just dont know if I would like the look of it.
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Alright, on to some finish pics. All of my subs have stainless screws and I really like how it constrasts on the black, so stainless hardware here as well. Wiring these took some time. I was as confused as a baby in a topless bar until some explanation from Matt haha. With having two boards per speaker, you need two input wires. After understanding Matt's connections, I found a way of working it so that I did not have to split the incoming wire to two wires. On the + input for the LF/HF board, it is a double terminal. So, the input wire to there and then a jumper from the second post over to the + IN for the MF board. On the - input for the LF/HF, it a quad terminal which was to be the - for HF, both LF woofers, and the input itself. I used one of the LF posts for the jumper over to the MF board. Then, I simply tied the second - woofer lead at the - terminal on the first woofer itself, which also helped as I used 12awg wire throughout. If you have your boards done by Matt, it will make sense when you see the board. My fingers hurt after all of that wiring. On with the fun...












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Damn those look good. Wow.
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Well, that was quick. I live in KC. So....I'll swing by tomorrow for a demo...
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Well, that was quick. I live in KC. So....I'll swing by tomorrow for a demo...

Yeah, I dont mess around, done in a weekend! Just kidding lol. Most of it was done when I started the thread, but it takes time to get it all in the thread. I was up till 4am last night getting the verticals finished. The center is still waiting for the replacement woofer, so we all get to wait for pics of that.
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Lookin' great! Can't wait to see pics of them in your HT. I think the scale of their size is still hard to grasp in photos

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That vinyl looks outstanding, hell I need to get some of that! You said it's kinda brittle at the edges?
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Nice work, I like them almost as much as the garage. Do you eat off that floor

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Fantastic build.
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Lookin' great! Can't wait to see pics of them in your HT. I think the scale of their size is still hard to grasp in photos

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Lot of stuff in that garage for scale it can be tough to grasp though. dont have the theater I used to, but I will get a pic of them all in place when done
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That vinyl looks outstanding, hell I need to get some of that! You said it's kinda brittle at the edges?
It's not brittle, it is just the most vulnerable place. Take a piece of paper and lay it on a flat surface with a straight edge. With the paper flush with the edge, take your finger or hand and rub lightly the surface edge. The paper will try to lift off the surface when your finger contacts the paper edge. Same thing here even though there is adhesive. If you try to peel anything, stickers, window tint etc, you always start peeling at the edge right? I think the main thing is that while it sticks to wood fairly well, it is not as good as metal, fiberglass, glass, etc

That said, be careful when moving, especially the edges with the palm of your hands. Once they are in place, smooth the edges back out and you are done. If you use black and cut into the wood while wrapping, you can use black paint or marker fix it as long as it isn't some huge spot.
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I forgot to eat!
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Lot of stuff in that garage for scale it can be tough to grasp though. dont have the theater I used to, but I will get a pic of them all in place when done
You should have someone take a pic of you with them. Love the finish by the way.

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You should have someone take a pic of you with them. Love the finish by the way.

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Thanks! If I can con someone in the pic, I will. I am not that photogenic
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