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I just wanted to add that once you get the waveguide in your hands it's big and really impressive I can't wait to finish this up. Hope everyone likes the pics if there anything else that someone wants to see let me know.
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There's some gasket tape in one of the packages if you wanted to use it around the midrange. I forgot to get some screws to mount the midrange to the horn and will need to get those.

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@eng-399 did you get a baffle? Or waveguide bracket?
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@eng-399 did you get a baffle? Or waveguide bracket?


No I'm building both of them my self. I still need to open the other two boxes and make sure the speaker terminals are in there to. I ran out of time before I had to leave today. I'm pretty much going to copy what Erich posted for the waveguide or do what something like @Samps posted in the other thread with these and build the waveguide into the box. I like the looks of one big cabinet with the waveguide built in my only problem is how do I make the waveguide recessed into the wood? I have a router but what router it do you buy and how do you route the corners that need to be wider is this a job for a CNC machine?
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How wide is the flange on the wg? You could use a rabbet bit. Or build a second thinner baffle that is just cut all the way through. Or very carefully with LOTS of tape free hand it with a double flute straight bit..
Or wait for better ideas from the guru's..

I just wanted to know the measurements of ports and woofer hole in relation to edges of the baffle..
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How wide is the flange on the wg? You could use a rabbet bit. Or build a second thinner baffle that is just cut all the way through. Or very carefully with LOTS of tape free hand it with a double flute straight bit..

Or wait for better ideas from the guru's..



I just wanted to know the measurements of ports and woofer hole in relation to edges of the baffle..


I'm not sure the width for the flange on the waveguide I'm not at home right now but I'll look tonight and measure.

I'll find out the size for ya for the ports and let you know.
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You can clamp a guidance at one side at the time. I suggest doing the routering first before you cut the baffle to size. This way you have more support for your router. And less work when you mess one up. You have to push "against" the direction, otherwise the router tends to be pulled in and you risk going to far in the corner.

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Or just surface mount the WG. That little lip won't cause you to loose any beauty contests.

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It's all good.. That's just why I asked if you had a baffle.
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Or just surface mount the WG. That little lip won't cause you to loose any beauty contests.

Wrong!

It's not because we tend to crave for humongous boxes we shouldn't do them with finesse.

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Wrong!

It's not because we tend to crave for humongous boxes we shouldn't do them with finesse.
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Maybe if it wasn't going behind a screen. Seems like a lot of extra work and likely a wasted baffle on the first try. Some of the big manufacturers don't even flush the WG. JBL and QSC don't bother in their cinema speakers.

Sure it will look great if he does, but that single step might take as long as the rest of the build.

I will salute the effort if it happens though.
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You guys are going to love these I have cdy2179's qsc 2150s and love how they sound and there not even in the theater yet and are running with no eq'ing. Jk 7.2 when he gets his set of Titans is going to meet up so we can do a blind test between the 2.

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Maybe if it wasn't going behind a screen. Seems like a lot of extra work and likely a wasted baffle on the first try. Some of the big manufacturers don't even flush the WG. JBL and QSC don't bother in their cinema speakers.



Sure it will look great if he does, but that single step might take as long as the rest of the build.



I will salute the effort if it happens though.

I hear ya plus I'm a amateur at using my new router. Another idea is there's a cnc shop in Chicago not to far away from my work I might call them and see if they can do it if it's not to expensive.
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I just watched some you tube videos on how to recess the waveguides with a rabbit bit I think I might be able to pull it off. It's going to fun trying I be sure sure to post all the messed pieces for some laughs lol.
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Your not done yet?

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haha ya those HTM kit's went fast I was that excited to get them done. Grabbing wood in the morning or Tuesday. I think this one might take a little longer with what I want to do with the waveguide. Your speakers are turning out great to I've been following your thread.
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haha ya those HTH kit's went fast I was that excited to get them done. Grabbing wood in the morning or Tuesday. I think this one might take a little longer with what I want to do with the waveguide. Your speakers are turning out great to I've been following your thread.
Morning wood?

Recessed waveguide for the win. How are you going to adhere it to the baffle? My suggestion would be a 1K moisture cure urethane product like Sika-Flex.

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Recessed waveguide for the win. How are you going to adhere it to the baffle? My suggestion would be a 1K moisture cure urethane product like Sika-Flex.


lol,



my plan was to screw the waveguide into the wood with screws just like the baffles that diysg sells for there kits. I'll check out what your suggesting thanks!

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I opened everything up and it's all there plus the Porto type piece for the waveguide thanks Erich.
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lol,


More pictures

I opened everything up and it's all there plus the Porto type piece for the waveguide thanks Erich.
Is that a bar in the room adjacent to your theater or just a permanent "new speaker parts" bench?

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@eng-399 - awesome man, I'm glad you were one of the first who received the kit since you're all business and will work day & night until complete. When are you expecting to have these set-up?
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@eng-399 - awesome man, I'm glad you were one of the first who received the kit since you're all business and will work day & night until complete. When are you expecting to have these set-up?


Later today hopefully pictures coming
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Just kidding I don't know hopefully this can be a two week build but time will tell I need to get the wood here so I can start. Once the wood is cut things go fast.
Why didn't you go with flatpacks if I may ask?
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Another thing to is once these are done or just a raw cabinet getting finished I can set them up and get a nice visual of how much room I'll have for subs. I'm pulling the sub boxes down as soon as my buddy next door stops by hopefully in a few minutes. This build hasn't started yet and it's already fun.
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I'm not sure the width for the flange on the waveguide I'm not at home right now but I'll look tonight and measure.

I'll find out the size for ya for the ports and let you know.
How deep of an inset do you need? If it's 1/8" or 1/4" I agree just add a layer of that thickness on the front and do a full through cut.

If the desired width of the flange matches the radius of the corners, use a rabbet bit.

If neither of those are an option and the CNC shop is expensive, I can CNC you a jig that you can trace with a top bearing flush trim router bit. Shouldn't cost much to ship from Iowa to Chicago. Would just need to know the external dimensions of the waveguide + the gap you'd like outside of it + the radius of the corners.
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How deep of an inset do you need? If it's 1/8" or 1/4" I agree just add a layer of that thickness on the front and do a full through cut.



If the desired width of the flange matches the radius of the corners, use a rabbet bit.



If neither of those are an option and the CNC shop is expensive, I can CNC you a jig that you can trace with a top bearing flush trim router bit. Shouldn't cost much to ship from Iowa to Chicago. Would just need to know the external dimensions of the waveguide + the gap you'd like outside of it + the radius of the corners.


Good thinking and I just checked its 1/4 thick for the waveguide. I don't see a problem with doing a 2nd baffle at 1/4 to have the waveguide sit flush with the box along with the two ports to.

Thanks for your offer I really appreciate it! If this doesn't work out I'll get in touch with you so we can figure something out.
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I just watched some you tube videos on how to recess the waveguides with a rabbit bit I think I might be able to pull it off. It's going to fun trying I be sure sure to post all the messed pieces for some laughs lol.
I can help with this, shoot me a text when you are ready!


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