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New World Record: 185db @ 315kW

Probably sounds like death, literally...

I think they used SoundDigital amps to power this as well. (But not the same people.)

Brazilian's really like their "loudness" apparently!

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That's hilarious, hair rock'n to the beat.
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But will it be adequate in my room? I have a concrete floor.
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that second video with the whole moving of the shirt, beer can, and hair in OPEN AIR - OUTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!! is stupid impressive.
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But will it be adequate in my room? I have a concrete floor.
That depends,

What brand of air raid horns are your mains and what air pressure do you run them?

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That depends,

What brand of air raid horns are your mains and what air pressure do you run them?

Oh no, I was planning on keeping these BOSE cubes. My wife only wants the most cute of speakers.
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A new record for stupidity. Yawn.

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just because your opinion is that this is stupid, doesnt make it so. Theres a quote in someones signature that could relate

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I did dB drag racing for 7 years. 185dB is flat out stupid lol. I was into the low 160s with my setup and that was unbearable.

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I don't even know what a person would have to do to get to +170db.

Sending a few kW to an LMS-18 with the TermLab located here, gives me this:



How in the world are they getting to these numbers on the dash @ 1M away?

Is 315kW into 9 15's at a much greater distance really that much louder?
Are they flashing the coils up in smoke during each run?
(I thought they have to at least score twice in a row for it to be valid?)

I just really want to find the clipping point my of TermLab, but no success thus far...

That said, 165db @ 14hz does sound pretty cool, too bad it doesn't do that @ 10ft.

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It seems they cranked up a bit more here

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I don't even know what a person would have to do to get to +170db.

Sending a few kW to an LMS-18 with the TermLab located here, gives me this:



How in the world are they getting to these numbers on the dash @ 1M away?

Is 315kW into 9 15's at a much greater distance really that much louder?
Are they flashing the coils up in smoke during each run?
(I thought they have to at least score twice in a row for it to be valid?)

I just really want to find the clipping point my of TermLab, but no success thus far...

That said, 165db @ 14hz does sound pretty cool, too bad it doesn't do that @ 10ft.
Yea they are cooking woofers in each run most likely as it's probably just a "one" time burp or atleast that's how it was when I competed in strictly spl. Sound quality and another type of scoring system the store that sponsored me had me enter required two runs though.
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Ive been out of the spl thing since I moved to the PNW from the South (somewhere around '98).

-A good friend and someone I mentored in the game just won some huge event in his class pulling a 169 in USACI Mod 2-4K. When I was doing this sort of thing I was unstoppable with a legal 158. Even 169 seems crazy....185 doesnt seem possible.

While I am far removed from the spl thing I do admire the ingenuity and effort that was put into being able to pull these sort of numbers.

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Ive been out of the spl thing since I moved to the PNW from the South (somewhere around '98).

-A good friend and someone I mentored in the game just won some huge event in his class pulling a 169 in USACI Mod 2-4K. When I was doing this sort of thing I was unstoppable with a legal 158. Even 169 seems crazy....185 doesnt seem possible.

While I am far removed from the spl thing I do admire the ingenuity and effort that was put into being able to pull these sort of numbers.

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You and I were doing similar legal numbers at the exact same time period so just really curious what brands you were running and the end setup you did best with?

I had a 1994 GMC 4 door Jimmy 4x4 with the back seats fully functional(so wasted atleast 2dbs if not 4dbs right there alone).

Amps- Rockford Power series in chrome ran down at 1ohm on each ch/amp

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Plenty of batteries, caps, altinators. Stinger alternators.

I used all the kevlar power series mids and highs. If memory is correct I believe there were like 18 mids plus highs in there at one point for the sound quality shows they needed me to enter.

Edit- back in mid/late 90s systems like ours that actually sounded good were far and few between. Everyone in my entire small city (30,000 pop.)knew who I was just because of my truck. Heck you could here me way out in the country if were sitting in a parking lot chilling in town the entire time we would be cruising country roads. They would all say they knew it was us when they would just keep hearing it but no vehicles in town would ever drive by after a while.

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You and I were doing similar legal numbers at the exact same time period so just really curious what brands you were running and the end setup you did best with?

I had a 1994 GMC 4 door Jimmy 4x4 with the back seats fully functional(so wasted atleast 2dbs if not 4dbs right there alone).

Amps- Rockford Power series in chrome ran down at 1ohm on each ch/amp

2-250s
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Alpine EQ in the rear view mirror
Alpine deck and 12 disk changer. The disk changer was the only way we could get a CD to play once it was up over like 150db or so, so that was just an after thought so I could actually be able to cruise around and change discs while driving. It was just mounted in the center console with the housing cushioned by some squishy foam or something.

Plenty of batteries, caps, altinators. Stinger alternators.

I used all the kevlar power series mids and highs. If memory is correct I believe there were like 18 mids plus highs in there at one point for the sound quality shows they needed me to enter.

Edit- back in mid/late 90s systems like ours that actually sounded good were far and few between. Everyone in my entire small city (30,000 pop.)knew who I was just because of my truck. Heck you could here me way out in the country if were sitting in a parking lot chilling in town the entire time we would be cruising country roads. They would all say they knew it was us when they would just keep hearing it but no vehicles in town would ever drive by after a while.

I had multiple configurations/vehicles the most noteworthy was a Ford Bronco II. I was a non affiliated competitor however was able to buy all my stuff from Stillwater at manufactures costs. This being said most of the comps I attended didnt have any amateur in the unlimited category so I nearly always competed as pro against any poor factory vehicles that happened to attend.

I had 12 Kicker c15s, 6x of the zr1000s (that would put almost 1000 watts to each 15), 11x 1000cca batteries

Legal I would run 158+, outlaw somewhere in the 162 area.

Competed IDBL, USAC and IASCA all around Mississippi, Arkansas, Missouri and Tenn..

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Yup, and five bucks says the military can build a louder one in just two days....but then they'll have to test it for 20 years on black budget funds, so I guess the Brazilians win after all.

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That's a lot of work to play some dumb music.

Most people seem to have no hearing protection so unless they're all going to the hospital later that night I'm gonna have to pull a skeptical snake on the 185dB thing.


Edit: oh, I get it now, it's just the car thing.

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How in the world are they getting to these numbers on the dash @ 1M away?
Cabin gain.

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Aren't these SPL vehicles also built with bullet-proof steel and sealed up to the point they'd be safe at 3000 meters under water? In fact I always wondered if they could be successful in recommissioning a WWII submarine into an SPL vessel.
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I had multiple configurations/vehicles the most noteworthy was a Ford Bronco II. I was a non affiliated competitor however was able to buy all my stuff from Stillwater at manufactures costs. This being said most of the comps I attended didnt have any amateur in the unlimited category so I nearly always competed as pro against any poor factory vehicles that happened to attend.

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Wow. Can't believe our trucks were equal honestly with your surface area and higher wattage. But I've also seen trucks with 6 12s hit mid 160s so it's installer dependent for sure.
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About 10 years ago, I did 146.3db legal off of 2x Mach5 18's in a 6.5cf sealed box, powered by an Earthquake PHD2 or 3 (~2kw), with a regular lead acid battery underhood and 2x 1/0g power runs to the amp in the trunk.
This was in a Saturn wagon, with the plastic door panels, full interior, and the panel flex on all of the panels was nuts. So was the voltage drop too actually.
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It seems they cranked up a bit more here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZkvY2iO64
That's nutz. So loud the mic records nothing. Can't hear even the mic distortion until they turn it down.
Loud = camera optics EMP.

Although it probably doesn't help that they recorded it with a potato in 140P.
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I wish my indoor setup could move hair like that...holy crap to doing it outdoors!

The "vehicle" thing is cool, I suppose, but ultimately, I don't get what the point is. If I remember back in my IASCA days (I competed Novice SQ 601+), those DB drag guys would tweak to find the single best frequency they could reproduce and tune / tweak everything around it. It's the definition of a one-note wonder. The enclosure build is probably the most impressive part, you're not hitting those numbers with lots of flex. Seems like the engineering hurdle is building a vehicle-sized enclosure that's large enough to fit drivers with enough surface area and excursion and small enough to be built rigidly and tuned to your target frequency. Successfully navigate those trade-offs and execute the build well and you can be the next record breaker, lol.
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I wish my indoor setup could move hair like that...holy crap to doing it outdoors!

The "vehicle" thing is cool, I suppose, but ultimately, I don't get what the point is. If I remember back in my IASCA days (I competed Novice SQ 601+), those DB drag guys would tweak to find the single best frequency they could reproduce and tune / tweak everything around it. It's the definition of a one-note wonder. The enclosure build is probably the most impressive part, you're not hitting those numbers with lots of flex. Seems like the engineering hurdle is building a vehicle-sized enclosure that's large enough to fit drivers with enough surface area and excursion and small enough to be built rigidly and tuned to your target frequency. Successfully navigate those trade-offs and execute the build well and you can be the next record breaker, lol.
The point is because they can. Lol that's pretty much it.

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