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Dayton Audio RSS 460HO-4 18'' build 2-11 cubic ft boxes slot ported to 17HZ.

Hey guys here's my build log for a new buddy of mine. I'm using the Dayton Audio RSS460 HO-4 drivers that where bought off of my other buddy Phil @sonichart These boxes are 22'' wide - 45.5 tall 24 inches in depth slot ported to 17hz. Rob will power these with an inuke 6k DSP as I suggested and will be eq'ed buy @derrickdj1 once he has these at his house. Simple box build here's the pictures of it as I just started today on it. I hope to be done this week and have them painted with duratex.
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Dayton Audio RSS 460HO-4 18'' build 2-11 cubic ft boxes slot ported to 17HZ.

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The camera in my phone is bad so I had to take these with another and send them to my phone that's why the pictures are weird. A new phone is on order....

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Another build!? You never stop. If you were the dad in The Croods your saying would be "never not be building subwoofers". Lol

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lol i got a text asking if I could get a hold of a local guy and build a box for him and if I know of any drivers that were good and so happens my buddy Phil was selling his Dayton rss460 ho's so the guy I'm building this for contacted him and bought the drivers And I'm building the boxes for him for a charge. These Won't take long to build there only 11 cubic ft each.
I enjoy building stuff to its fun
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Damn dude! You've upgraded your speaker building game -- The recess in that baffle looks amazing man!
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Damn dude! You've upgraded your speaker building game -- The recess in that baffle looks amazing man!


I have to keep up with the rest of guys around here. I see lots of very nice builds lately.
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I have to keep up with the rest of guys around here. I see lots of very nice builds lately.
You are like a machine, between working all the hours you do plus all the time you spend building audio things

That cool that you are helping someone out by building these for them, even for a fee. With as busy as you are(we all are it seems) that is awesome

Doing something like this can really mean a lot to someone. I have had friends/people help me in the past with different things and even though I paid them or offered to(some wouldn't take any money) it was a small amount in the return of enjoyment and other benefits that can come in the long term that is hard to put a price on.
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Rob is going to really like those subs! You jumped right on this project. I can't wait to demo them.
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Is that horizontal brace above the clamps permanent?
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Is that horizontal brace above the clamps permanent?

if so, have you thought about rotating that horizontal brace 90 degrees?


No that horizontal piece of mdf is a wedge to hold the side brace that goes from the bottom of the box to the top. I have a few of those scrap pieces wedged so the there’s pressure against the mdf while the pl construction adhesive dries. I’ll pull those off tomorrow and finish up.

The plan is to have the other braces tie into the long horizontal brace on both sides of the box. I’m trying to make it as solid as possible.

I can’t believe I’m almost done and I started this on Friday. One thing I messed up and didn’t show is the front baffle being to long. I somehow messed this up when I drew up all the cuts on paper I meant the both sides be long and the front back be 3/4 inch shorter so you just slide the top piece on and glue it up. Oh well no biggie I cut it down and all is good now.
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Hey guys here's my build log for a new buddy of mine. I'm using the Dayton Audio RSS460 HO-4 drivers that where bought off of my other buddy Phil @sonichart These boxes are 22'' wide - 45.5 tall 24 inches in depth slot ported to 17hz. Rob will power these with an inuke 6k DSP as I suggested and will be eq'ed buy @derrickdj1 once he has these at his house. Simple box build here's the pictures of it as I just started today on it. I hope to be done this week and have them painted with duratex.
Dude, you’re a f@cking machine!!!

They look great man! This is why I haven’t been on here....I see this and want to build myself some monsters.
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They look great man! This is why I haven’t been on here....I see this and want to build myself some monsters.


Thanks bro I’m getting faster each time. I think what’s making it easier for me is knowing the right steps and order to put these boxes together. Having square cuts make things a lot easier to. When everything is square the longest part of it is waiting for the pl to dry. I’m glad to help my new buddy Rob out with these. I just got a text asking for two more after my gtg meet from him to...
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Mike, I had mentioned the SI 18 V2 and the Dayton Reference driver to Rob, what was the deciding factor between the two? There are great advantages of the Marty style box and also keeping the size placement friendly. Using a big box allows one a great degree of flexibility with drivers. Maybe, post some WIN ISD graphs. for teaching purposes.
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Mike, I had mentioned the SI 18 V2 and the Dayton Reference driver to Rob, what was the deciding factor between the two? There are great advantages of the Marty style box and also keeping the size placement friendly. Using a big box allows one a great degree of flexibility with drivers. Maybe, post some WIN ISD graphs. for teaching purposes.
Box size--- width 22----Height 45.5 ----depth 24 external 11 cubic ft. after driver bracing and slot port 9 cubic ft +- a few
The box has a tune of 17 hz.

This is one example of what I've read from different posst on avs plus talking to guys on the phone about this driver and hearing both in person the the HT18 and the Dayton RS460HO. When I talked to Rob on the phone it sounded like he was torn between three drivers the UM18-22, Stereo Integrity HT18 and the DAyton Audio RS460HO. The problem was the only driver he could buy today was the HT18. Rob could of bought both of mine which I would of gave him a 20$ off what I paid for them so 40 under cost today or he could buy Phil's Dayton Audio RS460's. I feel the Dayton Audio RS460ho is a better driver with a lot less distortion than the HT18 from what I've been told and has more mid bass from what John LDT02 has said. One of those drivers that Phil was selling was currently shipped to him new for warranty so at 370$ I felt that was a good deal and so did Rob. So he got in touch with Phil and I picked it up for him to save Rob a 2 hour driver each way. I eq'ed Phil's room with these subs and built the box for Phil that these drivers where used in so I have a history with them. I hope he's happy with them I really think these are some really nice drivers and well worth the money. Databass tested these driver and said that 20 mm xmax is more realistic vs what parts express has them listed at. This helped make the decision as well along with what databass said about this driver.



I pulled this from a another thread below.......

Has anyone built a cyclops with the SI HT18v2 yet?

Is that driver a good match?

My buddy is building one, and didn't know if it was worth the extra $100 for the um18 (which I just now noticed is out of stock, heh)

LTD02 ?

edit: or if it's worth the $85 for the RSS460HO over the ht18


the um18 has a little stronger motor very low end output.
the 460ho has a little better at the midbass region.
the ht18 has a little less motor and little more inductance effects, so may need a little more eq than the other ones.
if $85 is a lot of money for your buddy, the ht18 will work. otherwise, go for the 460ho.

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The plan is to have the other braces tie into the long horizontal brace on both sides of the box. I’m trying to make it as solid as possible.
Can you post a pic of the bracing once it's all installed? I'm planning braces for my upcoming build, and some of the recommendations seem rather...extreme.
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Can you post a pic of the bracing once it's all installed? I'm planning braces for my upcoming build, and some of the recommendations seem rather...extreme.


Sure no problem I didn’t do any work on them today I took the day off. Tomorrow hopefully all the bracing will be done and the mattress topper will get stapled inside.
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Mike, I might have to go over to Rob's house sooner than I thought. You are moving right along, lol!
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Mike, I might have to go over to Rob's house sooner than I thought. You are moving right along, lol!


Thanks Derrick I’m hoping to be done by Sunday if everything goes to plan. 9 day build start to finish not to bad. I’m trying to get down to 5 days maybe on the next build.

I ran out of long mdf pieces so the boxes aren’t braced exactly a like but both are solid like a rock. Here’s one of the boxes with lining.
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Looking good! A couple dumb questions:

1) How do you get the adhesive on the tips of the braces during installation? Seems like it would smear off as you put the brace into place.

2) Where did you buy the mattress topper?
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1) How do you get the adhesive on the tips of the braces during installation? Seems like it would smear off as you put the brace into place.



2) Where did you buy the mattress topper?

Thanks
What I do for the bracing is mark the box with a pencil around where the brace is on the box pull it off smear little bit of pl on that spot then add some to the brace and wedge it back to box and hit it with one brad nail.

Mattress topper is from Walmart it’s 16 dollars for the queen size there.
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What I do for the bracing is mark the box with a pencil around where the brace is on the box pull it off smear little bit of pl on that spot then add some to the brace and wedge it back to box and hit it with one brad nail.

Mattress topper is from Walmart it’s 16 dollars for the queen size there.
Thanks for the info!

Is pl construction adhesive better to use than Titebond wood glue?

Also, am I supposed to account for the volume of the mattress topper when doing the box volume calculations? Or it it considered negligible since it's mostly air?

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